I could see how for some the existence of such a human would really grate on their nerves. It sort of erodes our agency in a way doesn’t it?” — Benj96
one cannot then argue that the irrational is rational. — Fooloso4
It's all me - I haven't read anything whatsoever about the trinity, but I am sure someone else will have made the same point somewhere. — Bartricks
I begin to see the worth of having theists on the forum. They are excellent bad examples. — Banno
That is because the longer the sides of the triangle become, the closer it gets — Amalac
The numbers are simply meant as analogies to illustrate what I feel is the meaning of The Holy Trinity — TheMadFool
The trinity is Neoplatonic. — frank
I would take issue with the claim that 'the Holy Spirit and God are one' is consistent with understanding the Holy Spirit to refer to God's power or agency. For that's a category error. A person's power is not one and the same as the person, but is rather a property of that person. I have powers, but I am not my powers. — Bartricks
The spiritual quest starts with seeing beyond the self, that is something that both East and West agree on. There are vast domains of understanding well outside the scope of our hedonistic technological culture. But we also can’t cling to the past. — Wayfarer
Let's put this down as misattribution. — Banno
Here's the thing: There should be no thread on the Trinity in a philosophical forum. — Banno
Quoting out of context as a rhetorical device. Nice example. Thanks. — Banno
For at least the simple reason that on that basis you are no Christian at all — tim wood
The trinity is inconsistent. — Banno
you tried to move form Christianity to Islam — Banno
You attempt to shift topic is noted - more examples of your refusal to address the issue — Banno
But, demonstrably, there are atheists here, presenting arguments, in direct contradiction of your assertion. — Banno
The Christians are a blight on the forum, yes, because they only have one topic; but more, because they do not accept rational discussion. — Banno
It’s essentially surrendering our intellectual autonomy to an entity that knows all. — Benj96
You follow the grand Christian tradition of equating critique with persecutions. — Banno
God is the same as his power and his love and his justice and everything about him. He is one thing. That is what monotheism is about. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share an intellect and will. There is ONE God but three relations of consciousness within it. — Gregory
No one is preventing you from interpreting it any way you want. — Fooloso4
Jesus would have been appalled to find that he was deified. — Fooloso4
Whereas most governments, or special god blessed governments at least, would be trusted by any rational person. — unenlightened
....while the much more likely notion that it crossed from an animal is ignored. — Banno
I think the reason is that one of the leading medical journals, The Lancet, published a condemnation of all "conspiracy theories" of possibility of a lab leak. Of course, the those totally rejecting one hypothesis at that moment when we don't know much, likely have something to hide. — ssu
Perhaps my reading skills have declined in my elder years, but I believe the original topic had something to do with this Einstein fellow? — EricH
Since you see no contradiction it follows that it is not possible for you formulate it in such a way. — Fooloso4
This is a public forum. If you don't want anyone to challenge your claims then you are in the wrong place. — Fooloso4
Don't feel you need to logically demonstrate your positions on a site dedicated to philosophical discussion? — 180 Proof
Keep your bs to yourself and STFD. — 180 Proof
If you both intend on using rational argumentation there should be nothing for either to fear from having a moderator hold each of you accountable to the other. That should address the problems each of you have expressed about the others discourse. — DingoJones
Maybe I'm / we're "angry" at your sanctimonous and delusional woo-of the gaps. — 180 Proof
So exorcize my / our "anger" and demonstrate soundly that our / my atheism is false (or incoherent) — 180 Proof
They make all kinds of excuses when you try to make them use logic to justify their position — 3017amen
Is anyone discussing atheist arguments? I thought the topic was about atheist irrationality (anger, fanaticism, and unfounded pride). — praxis
In a few quick posts you have gone from claiming you can formulate the Trinity in a way that is acceptable to philosophy in general to throwing a tantrum. — Fooloso4
I was fairly lucky in the start of my philosophical studies because I studied Social Ethics in Lancaster, and it covered many different areas of philosophy, — Jack Cummins
When I was moving last year one of my flatmates suggested I should throw my books in the bin. But, I am glad that I moved a significant portion of them because that was just before I found this site. — Jack Cummins
I think it we live in a society which values cars, houses and is extremely materialistic. But, I do believe that there are many people who do not really hold on to materialistic values, but often they are probably isolated. I believe that we live in a very fragmented culture. — Jack Cummins
So again, please specify. A tirade of insults? Ad hominems? Threats? Racist remarks? — tim wood
Geez! You really are that stupid! — tim wood
I’m not scared of you — praxis
All is simply ignorant and fallacious error, which is part of why I have asked you what your native language is — tim wood