He was pretty serious but I thought it was pretty funny.

:joke: :lol: Holy Shmolly! ... I never noticed. The prophecy is finally discovered, by the worthy ... m speechless! lol ! :rofl: :rofl:

I meant in happiness reap by comparing all goals with each other.

:lol:

I would like you to seriously meditate over that thought of yours — Anand-Haqq

I feel like what you are telling me is correct but unless I dig deep into your idea , I can't be sure .... So I will seriously meditate over that thought of mine.
By the Way ,You have a very nice grip over Rhetoric.

hmmmm , we understand what thoughts are, but it is ... the language that gets in the way.

I think the understanding of purpose is more important then the goal. Goals can be either be good or bad, just depends on our thinking, I think the question to ask is to have what kind of goals? ... Shouldn't humans look forward to future in a more positive way? A way that flows equal to the Taoist approach, but still makes you look ahead.

What if it gets interrupted in the middle? will that also be a thought?

so its individual? ... I was thinking about something universal, that all humans share.

make him drink Hemlock. :razz:

I don't remember exactly who but there was some philosopher who developed a Formula to do it (Measure Happiness). He would ask you some questions (like Yes Or No) but still .... As you said Amalac , It is nearly impossible to compare the intensity of sensations among many different humans.

:up: thoughtful.

Okay I might not like it, but Clark I'll try to understand it.

Exactly ... they all are sources. I think there might be a standard or some other way to compare their strengths with each other......... A " Happy-o-meter" or something.

I know it when I see it — T Clark

words don't show up to give that feeling a verbal dress.

haha , why is that? come on , a short answer maybe?

Jack do you think that Knowledge is the best path , where you encounter happiness and satisfaction and joy , along the way of complexity?

For me, happiness, to the extent that it is anything, is acting in accordance with our true natures. — T Clark

What are True Natures Clark?

That is correct Amalac, But I wonder is knowledge the greatest pleasure? What might be the greatest pleasure?

Yeah but what are those actions that bring us closest to happiness? Lao Tzu thinks that it is "no action".

The best goal is no goal. Act from your heart and go where that takes you. — T Clark

Underlying purposes of all goals of all humans is to achieve happiness. So according to Lao Tzu this is the best way to achieve happiness.
I think this question can be reshaped to ; "What is the best way to achieve happiness?"

Jack why is that you don't agree with the Naturalistic notion to this question? .... I mean if there was soul before birth , then ultimately we should have thoughts back there too.

Jack Cummins do you think there are some goals in life that are in someway better for you than some other goals.
I created a thread few minutes ago .....
I would love to hear your opinion of it .....

Plato Says: "Thoughts are soul talking to itself"

hmmmm .... thoughtful !

I can't thank you enough man. That was really eye-opening. God bless!

So love is the reproductional need?