@Jack Cummins

The mind is ignored by science and much of philosophy.

That's why it can't explain anything profound.

Verbal gymnastics is not profound,at all.

@180 Proof

Can you feel your eyes?

Do you know the function of your eyes?

Did you know you had eyes before someone told you?

Now apply this to the mind.
The mind doesn't just think,it feels,in fact it's predominantly feelings then perceptions,then thinking.

You are ignoring and marginalising a huge part of human experience and knowledge.

@Banno

Read the post again.

@Joshs
Listen guy. Don't pigeon hole me or try to patronise me.

If your too anal and think I need to show proof of every bit of malevolence in historical matters then you keep believing the narratives dealt to you by the powers that be.

You stick to your comfortable post modernist narratives.

As if I owe you a detailed spoon feeding of how to asses narratives. Do your own research and use your own brain not relying on academics to justify your every viewpoint

And the irony of ",conspiracy monger" when you read deleuze,Nietzsche,foucault et al and say there is a variety of perspectives.

Human all too.human!

@khaled

Childish response.

Poetry and supra logical speech has always been the best expression of truth.

@Joshs
With respect,philosophy is not stringent like science.

Which kind of psychology do you write on?

Neuroscience/experimental or other?

I don't endorse kuhn,I'm saying science has dominant paradigms,which are very hard to overturn.

I'm saying nearly everything we have heard about Albert Is mainly prooganda.

@MAYAEL

Finally,a person speaks from personal experience and good instincts. :up: Thank you!

Meaning is from within. Sometimes it becomes rocky due to trauma but meditation really helps to see clearly and give you answers from your soul.

@Joshs

The amount of nonsense and misinformation written about Einstein is legendary...

By todays scientism logic he would have been chased off this forum as a lunatic anyway. You need degrees,phds,white coats and to worship newton or the current paradigm to be able to be in our club of science.

@Kenosha Kid

The last taboo.

The taboo against confidence!

You hold on to your uncertainty....for now.

@Kenosha Kid

You are having troubling reading my posts,the meaning and context. Mr sober.

So your a minimum wage scientist!! I'm sure for the love of science you would work for free.

You say curiosity,it's really fear.

I smell virtue signalling and a fear of the confidence of others.

@Kenosha Kid
Sacrifice and teamwork my ass!

Paycheck is your motivation is it not?

Plus the fake esteem of "science".

No deal! Ones argumentation is tip top!

You can drink to that glib one!

@Kenosha Kid
Curb your alcohol palooka.

@Kenosha Kid

You drunk again punchy?

The naivety of the petty low grade scientist who thinks he works for some kind of "truth" and service to mankind.

Check your complacent egos boys!

@khaled

Dog shit post.
Head out of the scientists ass and in the real world.

If you don't get it you don't. I won't waste my time with this level of scientism and and pseudo logic.

@Bartricks

Philosophy boils down to psychology monsieur.

@Jack Cummins

I believe hyper rationality with the argument from authority and little Britain says the computers says the answer is 4.

@Corvus
Sorry to butt in.
But you are right,many posters who discuss in this overemotional and obsessive way are expressing their fear that if their theory is wrong they will feel super anxious.

This makes them unable to discuss calmy.

He needs to chill out,and then discuss calmly.

@Kenosha Kid

You missed out capitalists.
After all a capitalist is a communist with a Walmart bag.

@Olivier5

That was funny! Well played monsieur!

@Olivier5

What is the scene?

Haven't seen that film.

A bit before my time!

@Olivier5

Thank you.

Well,we can Still get along...Hopefully!

@Olivier5

I reject all political parties. I'm an anarchist.

@Olivier5

Well,seeing as science is based in the main on materialism and making money and weaponry then you are conflating thinking with academic science.

They are not the same.

@Olivier5

Well I'm a lot more nuanced than your above logic.

Bad would be someone who served a monied agenda and said or did nothing but took the money.

If your pro science,I commiserate you on your faith in science. But it doesn't mean your bad.

@RoadWarrior9

A bad joke.

So the second part,genetic engineering,what does that entail?

@RoadWarrior9
Reread your post slowly.

@khaled

So majority rules?

No,my scientist friend had just been questioned deeply and was being truthful. Your bias shows through when you say appeased.

I've explained enough in my posts for you to get what I'm saying. If you can't see it, then perhaps try to be less scientismistic and apply your own perception.

@Olivier5
The self employed and those who work with integrity don't serve money or deception.

So in effect your saying we must bow to monied interests even though they have an agenda?

@Olivier5
Yes,scientist are regular folks. But they work in an industry run by monied interests.

The more money and stakes involved in an industry the more deception.

What of all the numerous meditators and religious people who experience this?

@Isaac

Who funds scientific research and who decides what avenues get funded?

@Olivier5

As have and do scientists. Lying is prolific in scientific research. Its like propoganda or a sales pitch.

What if it was someone you trusted and you knew they were being genuine?

@Olivier5

But if somebody did feel or remember previous lives would you accept that?

All those arguing for mind being material and the unreliability of subjectivity are really saying they don't trust their feelings and perceptions they instead trust the "interpretations" and speculations of the theory of matter.

Well that's on them. I'm sure in their personal life they don't take an MRI scanner and a textbook on research around to check and verify their partners reactions...

They don't see it fully because they are in thrall and intimidated by science.

They lead a double life!

@Olivier5

@Michael

Extraordinary claims like that require very strong evidence. I can't take that on trust.

As @Olivier5 has said wouldn't that research constitute definitive evidence of abiogenesis?

Are you also aware that scientific research has a replication problem?

The sociology of scientific research and the sensationalism of scientific papers is also a fact.

Remember cold fusion and the hadron collider replicating the big bang?

And no I don't accept theories just because guys in white suits claims so.

@khaled
My friend is an experienced scientist who works in biotech.
We have had long talks on these issues and he explained the jargon.

He finally admitted he couldn't square how life actually started from matter,or how DNA replicates.

If you want to know what non material but physical is raise your hand and observe.

@Isaac
Wheres the proof?

You think an experiment designed by Elitist scientism advocates Is something I wish to replicate!

Just as valid as asking the priest for some fairy dust or tips on how to levitate.

I heard yogis claim to levitate. The method statement is quite clear.

Try it. If it doesn't work its because you didn't replicate the method!!! Take it on trust!

@Michael

And that article full of jargon is proof that scientists turned matter into life?

Any actual real life tangible evidence that I don't have to take on trust?

@khaled
I agree with dualism.

But this is where those explaining dualism and the mind body situation mess up. Every energy is physical.

The mind is desire and desire is non material but physical.