About what? — universeness

About dick improvement! :lol:

and improvements offered — universeness

Are you serious...? :lol:

depends on the functionality and improvements offered. Perhaps a bisexual will require different options to a heterosexual! — universeness

:lol:

You mean one on the back? :yikes:

Some circumcised men dont even protect their pink very well! — universeness

Brother Uni! A bionic penis? Don't we all long for one! :lol:

To paraphrase some theistic BS
'Forgive him father he knows not what he types!' — universeness

Ill firgive you! :lol:

You've lost the contact with the gods. Typical, as the people gods showed similar behavior.

I endorse human imagination but we must distinguish the very useful, important aspects of human imagination that drive our pursuit of new knowledge — universeness

Humanities purpose is not the pursuit of knowledge and giving birth to a kind of immortal superhuman, as you seem to suggest. Any future human willing to give up his real pink for a mechanic version is lost...

and not the woo woo that comes from primal fears that manifest as BS woo woo from our Freudian ID. — universeness

And again: WOOWOO!

No, some will happily give up their current pinky for an upgrade that will offer much more functionality and longevity. Hanging a very heavy weight from it, killing a human with one flick of it, lifting a heavy object trapping a person legs, etc etc. But still has all the same functionality of a human pinky, same sense of touch, gentle pressure, growing nail(f you want), pain(if you want) etc — universeness

And behold: Woowoo. No, WOOWOO! :rofl:

Sometimes woo woo thinking must be dealt with within any exchange of opinions on a particular topic. The topic of money is certainly involved in selling woo woo or earning a living from woo woo or using the power of money to maintain or even enforce woo woo. — universeness

We all adhere to woowoo, brother Uni. No one is free of woowoo, neither you, as we've discussed enough now. You can question woowoo, and rightly so, but without woowoo, we are blind. Which is okay for a transhuman maybe, but not for people. You, me, Vincent, Agent Smith (he's the embodiment of woowoo even!), without woowoo, no life.

Those with the bionic pinky may overthrow the puny humans with no bionic pinky.
In the world of the blind, the one-eyed man can become king! — universeness

Of course. But then there have to be people without pinky's or eyes first.

This topic was originally about devising an alternative economic system. An alternative to the competitive money system. But it's more about woo-woo than about finding solutions. regrettable — Vincent

What if we changed the attitude towards money. Abandon global corporations, all with their distinctive logos? And change the attitude towards possession?

So a future transhuman will be just someone with machine parts and organic parts — universeness

Indeed. Not a transhuman but a lesshuman.

Someone with a pacemaker, for example, is completely reliant on this technology for the continuation of their life. That is a prototype transhuman imo. — universeness

No. That's someone with a pacemaker!

Why not? — universeness

He had an eye for me since he came to live in our street. Freek Paardenkooper, great singer!

We already have prototranshumans — universeness

?

The rapture is happening already...

Surely you hear the growing throng of laughter towards such BS — universeness

I surely do: "Woowoowoowoowoooooo....woowoowoh! :rofl:

No offence, but this sounds like something the 'rapture' theists would approve of. Pure woo woo — universeness

Says brother Uni who believes in transhumans...

Woowoo! Wooooo....wooooooo woowoowoo! :lol:

They all have! And brothers, sisters, children, etc. It's just like here. But non-material and eternal. Dear grandpa of gods...

Well, could have been worse, the guy you kissed might have reacted differently. — universeness

Trust me, he wouldn't... It's not my daily business though!

We can leave the woo woo to Hollywood movies and use the education system for actual education. — universeness

Indeed. Let them make movies about science and fiction. And guide children ourselves untill they are old enough to decide for themselves what they wanna learn. Science woowoo or astrology, or dreamtime woowoo, or any woowoo. All hail the woowoo! :lol:

Have you told your wife — universeness

Yeah she knows. I kissed a guy in the street once, full on the mouth, during Corona! He was trying to stop a fight about to erupt between me and that f^%&^%ng neighbor of mine. She didn't like it...

In the horrible Darwinian reality of evolution — universeness

Dear mother of god...

Really? I am shocked you feel this way based on all our exchanges :rofl: — universeness

Woofwoof! :lol:

In a truly free society, all woowoo should be allowed. And not one particular kind should be institutionalized and by law taught to our children.

You're not alone, brother Smith! How's the 3-year old doing?

I would vote for an UBI! I'm proubi! A proud bisexual! I love them all! No, seriously, statistics are weird! 5.786 people per 1000... The river is 1.5 meter deep in average. And she drowned.

If we work together we can stop even rogue asteroids!
If we are distracted by shit such as rich vs poor, white vs not-white, male vs female, science vs woo woo — universeness

I agree almost with all of this. I don't see though why should stand together to form a front againsts woowoo in favor of science, as science itself contains the woowoo just as well. Woowoo is liberating!

I think you are trying for 'lies, damned lies and statistics — universeness

That's the one! So 71% doesn't mean a lot. They didn't ask me bout UBI!

But money is above everything and thus is the greatest source of oppression — Vincent

Then it's not money that has to go, but the idea it's above everything. It's treated like a god nowadays. "Money makes the world go round"? No way!

1. Blow it to smithereens
2. Deflect it
3. Slow it down

Options, options, we need options, fast! — Agent Smith

If the asteroid stand for the train of "progress", heading for the abyss while accelerating (so one metaphor for another!) we should stop the acceleration. We could sabotage the loc or nuke the asteroid. Which will have unwanted consequences but armageddon can be send home. No longer needed. Or maybe we should abandon the armageddon idea. Armageddon could actually be a self-fulfilling prophecy... :rofl:

71% of all Europeans are claimed to support UBI. — universeness

There is an old saying, "There are truths, there are lies, and there are statistics"...

But the problem is that the money system gives the opportunity to enslave a population — Vincent

Dunno... I think basically all human inventions have that property.

I would suggest the rational use of money and, of course, other resources with a little bit of :heart: thrown in for good measure (xin). A pipe dream? Possibly, but it feels so right! — Agent Smith

Good point, brother Smith! It's not money that's evil but the people that are nefarious. Money can set free and enslave, dependent on the users. It's just a universal guaranteed barter object.

This planet is objectively 'round — 180 Proof

That's a subjective judgment. Like the universe being flat.

Arithmetic is objective, yet many are (functionally?) innumerate. Grammar is objective, yet too many are (functionally?) illiterate. — 180 Proof

Science is objective, yet many are (functionally?) ignorant.

And our view may be corroborated by actual observation more effectively than by any sort of verbal argument. — javi2541997

Yes. And the observations show my model is right.

And this is to be proven, better than any demonstration through words [λόγοι], from the observable [ἐνάργεια] itself. — javi2541997

Yes.

This still is no answer or reason to where the basics as described by the model.

No? Are you aware of those theories of astrophysics which describes the beginning of out universe? What about Stephen Hawking's theories? — javi2541997

Like I said, I studied those theories and have a cosmological model incorporating the current universe in a wider framework which allows serial succession of big bangs. Question remains, where does that come from?

It is so contradictory from a realism argument. Physical objects and elements do exist. Simple. If the universe is there and it makes some effects, then it does exist. — javi2541997

Yes, physics describes and explains the stuff of the universe. But it doesn't explain how the stuff got there in the first place.

The surprising fact here is that you are questioning both universe and human existence but you are blind towards God's one. That's the clue of our debate — javi2541997

I know why the gods created the universe. And eternal intelligences don't need no reason to exists.

The universe is there...
— Hillary

You also said:

you would know it gives no explanation why the universe is there.
— Hillary— javi2541997

So, the universe is there and physics gives no explanation for it's existence. What's contradictory about that?

although they don't make a lot of sense from a contemporary viewpoint. — Wayfarer

I would say that having found a modern, coherent cosmology furthers the case for gods.