It is fascinating because the act of acting individually in modern society is punished by the group, whether you have reasons to do so. My conclusion is that we have to cooperate, because others would see us as "selfish", "traitor", "a black sheep", etc. — javi2541997
If a walkout [UAW - United Auto Workers, US] occurs, workers would receive about $500 a week —far short of what they earn while they're working. As a result, millions of dollars in wages would be removed from the economy.
[CUPE - Canadian Union of Public Employees] Members receive strike pay at a rate of $15 per hour, with a maximum of 20 hours per week of strike duties.
[according to German Labour Law] During industrial action, trade union members normally receive strike assistance, which is paid by the trade union and of which the amount is 2/3 of the gross income. Other employees who are directly affected by the strike receive social security payments from the State.
In NorwayThe compensation usually amounts to somewhere around 70 percent of your gross salary, but as it's tax-free, people are typically paid roughly the same as their regular net salary.
So it is not a question of bad intent , but a different system of intelligible within which the other believes themselves to be as justified from a moral perspective as you feel. — Joshs
The capability of experiencing others’ feelings is no
more straightforward than experiencing their thinking, since it relies on culturally embedded interpretation. — Joshs
For instance, in the modern era , the notion that other species have feelings , emotions and cognitions was not accepted widely until recently. — Joshs
Ever disturb a wasp nest? Wanna try it?But what about insects? Do they have feelings? Or plants? Our schemes of intelligibility are constantly changing. — Joshs
Plants don't have individual brains, but they are linked by a sensory networkCharles Darwin once wrote in his book The Expression of Emotions in Man and Animals that insects “express anger, terror, jealousy and love.” That was in 1872. Now, nearly 150 years later, researchers have discovered more evidence that Darwin might have been onto something. Bumblebees seem to have a “positive emotionlike state,” according to a study published this week in Science. In other words, they may experience something akin to happiness. To some, the idea is still controversial, however. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/i-ll-bee-there-for-you-do-insects-feel-emotions/
So, that question is still pending.Mycelium are incredibly tiny “threads” of the greater fungal organism that wrap around or bore into tree roots. Taken together, myecelium composes what’s called a “mycorrhizal network,” which connects individual plants together to transfer water, nitrogen, carbon and other minerals. German forester Peter Wohlleben dubbed this network the “woodwide web,” as it is through the mycelium that trees “communicate.”https://www.nationalforests.org/blog/underground-mycorrhizal-network
Of course. They had no problem mating with these 'savages' , or, as in Jefferson's case, keeping a mistress with false promises (a common enough ploy among people of the same 'high' cultural standard). And if they actually believed the cover-story, why would they expect the standard intimidation tactics to keep the slaves compliant? Why would they make it illegal to teach a slave to read? According to that logic, they should have assumed the Africans were incapable of being educated - just as women were banned from university. (See how ignorant they are? How could they be allowed to vote and drive cars?) Why, after abolition, did they feel it necessary to enact miscegenation and segregation laws?When Southern slave owners claimed their slaves were happy, was this merely a rationalization to protect their way of life, — Joshs
It's a rejection, suppression or outright persecution of any minority (their suffering doesn't signify) that threatens a carefully built and maintained structure of power. Part of what holds up the power-structure is an imposed belief-system, such as organized religion, tradition and nationalism.When certain gendered categories are labeled pathological or immoral, is this a failure to see the other’s suffering, or a failure to interpret the significance of the suffering as constituting an injustice? — Joshs
What matters to us, what we care about, whose suffering we empathize with, is dependent in the first place on what is intelligible to us from our vantage as nodes within a larger relational matrix. — Joshs
I don’t believe there is such a thing a ‘bad seed’, — Joshs
What you see as a good action I may see as a bad action. — Agree-to-Disagree
That’s probably why she has been doing it so long. Because the people around her are more interested in ‘modifying her behavior’ than understanding her point of view. — Joshs
she revels in "playing tricks" on others: manipulation, compulsive lies, and dramas to get her "wins" no matter how small that is. — L'éléphant
Few might call a PGA golf tournament an example of undisciplined emotionalism — Nils Loc
Degree of absurdity doesn't figure in my assessment; I'm looking for motivation.but it is arguably as absurd if not more so than a pop up memorial. — Nils Loc
Boo hoo hoo, those ugly white people took me from my alcoholic mother and cared for me and put me in a White school where I was treat treated like one of them because they hatefully won't let me have the culture of alcoholism, rape, stealing, and self-pity. — Athena
a culture that resolves more problems than it creates — Athena
And that's why they [Americans, as per your earlier post] value their individual freedom over any collective benefit. — Vera Mont
That is nuts! :rage: I am unsure of what you mean to communicate — Athena
And the US is a christian country, formed and constituted and ruled in the Abrahamic tradition of might makes right. Plato did not sign the Declaration of Independence.that problem squarely on Christianity and believing in a god that can violate the laws of nature and be controlled by human behaviors such as reacting to human rights and wrongs. — Athena
(I give money periodically to help feed the poor's children, but there are times when I look at some people and think "Oh, PLEASE don't reproduce -- you can't take care of yourself, let alone others!") — BC
I would find it hard to believe for the simple reason as it could be argued then that people should be imprisoned or stripped of rights from birth because they are fundamentally bad. — Benj96
By elevate I simply mean to privilege - people venerate and privilege the things they consider to be authentic and eschew that which they consider to be mass-marketed pap. — Tom Storm
This is an era which elevates the subjective and the 'authentic' and feelings and nature in quite similar ways. — Tom Storm
Agree, and this is one of the key characteristics of Romanticism. — Tom Storm
Above the gods and humanity is logos. — Athena
That is a very interesting term. Is that mob rule? — Athena
I found the public grief over the empty Princess Diana absurd. — Tom Storm
On the other hand, I will be honest. I see trade unions as political lobbies. — javi2541997
They become ones when they have lots of political power, yes. But so I guess happens to any group that has a say in public matters. — ssu
Well, the US is like the Western Europe except everybody speaks English and have nearly the same customs, culture and preferences. — ssu
It hasn't changed that much, except to grow larger and become better at divide and conquer. — Moliere
Yeees... only... Well, let's say both the political and economic landscape of the future are as yet unmapped. But I think that speculation belongs elsewhere.But I'm afraid I have to say one should think in terms of bosses and workers, when looking at political economy. Or at least the bourgeoisie, if not the lieutenants of capital. As a socialist surely you agree here? Automation can give us good things if used well, but to be used well the workers need to have a say in political economy? — Moliere
Most sites of typical mourning that I've encountered are not that big and if they are big it relates to the notoriety of the deceased, — Nils Loc
It might have to get worse before people want to make it better, though. Most workers are not fighters. They just want the best for them and their family, and fear is an effective motivator. — Moliere
When people talk about the dimness of labor — Moliere
Someday we'll find it, https://www.zinnedproject.org/materials/the-firWhat worked then is what would work now, if people decided to stop living in their little family-bubble.
Two important examples: — javi2541997
There are a lot of evidences which prove that trade unions act as a mafia group. — javi2541997
The co-workers are just colleagues in an industrial activity and we only share time and space. — javi2541997
Which means shareholders, waiting for their quarterly dividend and looking for the value of their stock to rise.Management works for the interests of their company. — Alkis Piskas
As with the blue-collar workers --I can't differentiate them as "employees", because managment personnel is among them too — Alkis Piskas
The ratio of CEO-to-typical-worker pay soared to 399-to-1 under EPI’s realized measure of CEO pay, the highest ratio on record, up from 366-to-1 in 2020 and a massive increase from 59-to-1 in 1989.
I believe this is quite a biased view, — Alkis Piskas
The Abandonment of Small Cities in the Rust Belt
Oct. 10, 2019
Things began to change for these communities in the 1980s, when American corporations began to outsource production and re-engineer their organizations to adapt to globalization.
As it also happens, one big company contracted a friend of mine some years ago. Two months later, his agent reported that they still had not received $#1. My friend packed up and left; the agency was eventually able to beat his fee and their percentage out of the company. It sometimes happens that they never pay up.Millions of Americans struggle to get by on low wages, often without any benefits such as paid sick leave, a pension, or even health insurance. Their difficult lives are made immeasurably harder when they do the work they have been hired to do, but their employers refuse to pay, pay for some hours but not others, or fail to pay overtime premiums when employees’ hours exceed 40 in a week.
Why U.S. Law Makes It Easy for Donald Trump To Stiff Contractors
Being an organizer is a stressful, thankless job where everyone blames you for everything and most of what you do is run around putting out fires for less than the members you service make — Moliere
The example I used the strike was for equal pay for women. They didn't win in the first strike, but they got some victories, and then some odd 15 years later the original demand was met with a longer strike. — Moliere
There are a lot of evidences which prove that trade unions act as a mafia group. — javi2541997
The only individualistic move that's called scabbing is continuing to work during a strike. Sometimes scabs are bussed in - hired from outside the union - to break a strike. Sometimes police or mercenaries are employed to break a strike.If you want to make an individualistic move, they quickly will call you scab. — javi2541997
Managements rarely see it that way; rarely show reciprocal loyalty to the employees. It usually is very much an adversarial situation. Bosses like to portray themselves as "job creators", while, in fact, they give the least remuneration they possible can in return for the most profit they can squeeze out of the workers and very often put workers at unnecessary risk to cut corners.Your group is the whole company you are working in, and mainly the owner and the management. — Alkis Piskas
You owe them a fair day's work for a fair day's pay - nothing more.So, you owe them more than you owe to your colleagues and the syndicate. — Alkis Piskas
When does scabbing not hurt strikers? — Moliere
if you help the boss break the strike then you're putting your family ahead of the other families that are also risking themselves. That's the choice being made. — Moliere
That, too, was one of my questions: Duty to the union, or obedience to the leadership? I have been a staunch trade unionist - even to refusing to cross a picket line as a client, when I had not been informed of the issue in contention. In fact, I voted for the miner in the OP to join the strike....duty to union, outside of union families, is often seen as a naive position. — Moliere
I didn't know a dilemma needed to be that realistic.. — javi2541997
Of course they [employers] have and a lot [of duty]. Starting with the entrepreneur who pays their income and ending up with the state when taxes are paid. — javi2541997
But there's no choice in the abstract. — Moliere
That's an assumption not always borne out by results. The strikers are not necessarily represented by the union leadership; they may be incorrect in their assessment of the situation; this particular worker may be aware that the strike is futile.If you're a worker then, like it or not, scabbing will hurt strikers.
I would like to explore the age old argument: Nature verse nurture. With a focus on the propensity towards crime, wrongdoing and malice as well as virtuosity, charity and outstanding citizenship. — Benj96
Avoid the closure of the colliery. Thus, they would keep their jobs. — javi2541997
I do not consider it as "option" but a duty. — javi2541997
If you were the worker, what would you want? — javi2541997
It is interesting that you all say this is not a realistic scenario. :lol:
To be honest, I still do not understand why you see it that way... — javi2541997
Your job involves working at a colliery. The government is about to elaborate a new law reform that the main objective is to reduce pollution and develop an eco-friendly system.
Employment at collieries is at its risk. The leader of the miner's trade union prepares a big strike in your town. — javi2541997
Make that 30 years, because this is from a Guardian article of 2005.Until 10 years ago, roadside floral tributes were virtually unknown in Britain. Now there are parts of the country where you can't go half a mile without seeing them.
, so they can afford to pay the guys who bring up the coal. They can also afford to re-employ* the same people in their next venture.A whopping $35 million. That's what the highest paid mining company CEO earned in 2021, according to data collected by Costmine Intelligence, part of The Northern Miner Group.
Empathy. You see what happened to someone, you understand that you could have been the one, and so you leave something nice because that's what you'd like to be done if it were you. — Moliere