logic apparently was "inescapable" because reality is logical. — MindForged

A good observation. You must be referring to a hyper-classical school of thought. I'm not sure if they necessarily wanted to mechanize reality. Their tendency is towards determinism but, perhaps, with exuberance (and here now I am sympathetic) logic was thrown in for good measure.

Banno, dear.
I'm happy to see you here.

A good question to post, creativesoul. (Hah! I have lost my ability to use the quote function -- it's been a long time).
Anyway, something that Banno said about "where does it go wrong?" as a good starting point.
I take issue with this because this was actually raised in one my academic report writing projects -- that before you 'could' ask this, you must have already had some exposure to some first principles and had formulated an 'opinion'. In other words, I believe asking "where does it go wrong" is a step-up from the question of philosophical starting point.

I'd say instead that we are prone to using universals. Someone may have already alluded to it in this thread.

Hi Baden,

Thanks for the welcome. Good to be here! Good to see you guys.

Hello. Thank you.