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  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Michael


    I see. It is all so clear now. Your obvious investigative skills are wasted on you here.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmockingbird.htm
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/o1607.pdf
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Michael


    http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/cia/operationmockingbirdCIA.pdf
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Well documented where? In the news?

    Don't you notice the hypocrisy in your position? You accept the news as trustworthy when it suits your agenda but not when it doesn't.
    — Michael

    You are being quite the idiot.

    Not in the news. In documents. In fact, documents "the news" generally avoids.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Michael
    It is well documented but doesn't suit the narrative most on sale.

    Operation Paperclip was another interesting program.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪René Descartes


    "Repeat a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth."
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪tim wood
    You've been believing the news.
    Have you not heard of Operation Mockingbird?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    You wouldn't happen to be a Holocaust denier too, would you? What is your comment supposed to mean? Do you mean that there exist posted photos of children in cages that are fraudulently presented as representing children taken? That there may be is possible, but as against the reality, irrelevant. Or do you mean that there is no such thing happening and that we should all be looking at something, anything, else. Or were you being ironic?

    Make clear what you mean. If the first, you're comment is irresponsible; if the second, as contemptible as Holocaust denial; if the third, you may care to think more than once about what you write.

    I'm going to completely butcher a quote - I think it's french, around the mid-last century. If anyone recognizes it, please let me know so I can get it right.

    "Around the bonfire is grotesque laughter, but at the edge in the shadow loom awful and horrible faces."

    Are you one of those awful and horrible faces?
    — tim wood

    Oh! And all this is hyperbolic nonsense. Get a grip.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    You really do not understand trauma, do you? — tim wood

    To answer your question, yes I do understand.

    Next!
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪tim wood
    I was talking of border photos from 2014 doing the rounds on social media presented as 2018 or 2017 which were picked up by news outlets recently.

    Another news story broadcast widely showed a brown child up close inside a cage then depicted as being held by border security but further photos revealed that this child was put in this cage by his parents as part of a staged protest action.

    You've jumped the gun, old chap.

    I was talking about, therefore, "cage" photos as dis-info.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    On ideas and Russia, this is what I came across recently.

    That Communism for Russia was orchestrated in the backrooms of Wall Street in 1917 as a way to defeat the economic powers of the Tsars. Mad, eh?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    I don't know about you but I'm going to settle into an afternoon of cultural diversity via sport broadcast from Russia.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    You are playing the left vs right political game/Trump voters are nazi fascists blah blah boring boring transparent as F.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    The photo isn't evidence of anything. There is a gun in shot. So?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    Some aren't their parents. Some pretend to be their parents. Child trafficking and child sex trafficking is an issue in itself. The undocumented easily fit the trafficking business model.

    With regard to further psychological harm/trauma it is just not feasible that all children in this circumstance go straight from where they are found into some immediate loving arms and home without some extra trauma time in-between.

    Trauma usually has an end, and once it ends (with regard to any particular circumstance) the time it took to resolve it is really just part of the deal when undertaking risk.

    There are risks to a dangerous enterprise. Temporary time working to resolve trauma while investigating what may actually be going on with the risk-takers is just how it will be.

    We do not live in Utopia.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    confined for reasons of state security — Baden
    It vaguely only fits this definition providing "temporary" is added. Parents do put their children through much suffering in their attempts to cross illegally. Apparently, also, 80% of women are raped inside Mexico during their border endeavors. No doubt some of these had children who may have had to witness such atrocities.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    Oh dear. Maybe explain that to actual concentration camp survivors.

    Interesting how those "cage" photos turned out to be years old or the one where the parents put their little boy in a cage as a staged protest.
  • A puzzle concerning identity - the incoherence of Gender
    Living with Mrs Un has obliged me to become aware of being white, and aware that the normality of whiteness, the unawareness of the identity is a privilege of whiteness in the culture. A non-white person simply cannot walk down the street unaware of their non-whiteness; it impinges itself by way of 'the look', which roughly translates as "who do you think you are?" It is a question that it is a privilege not to be forced to confront. Not to confront it is to feel at home. — unenlightened

    There is a personal remedy. The not identifying oneself as role or even as body (including mind/brain).

    It is employing, for oneself, a psychological trick to counter the culture tricks and the trickiness of mindlessness.

    After all, those "who do you think you are?" looks are just demonstrations of mindlessness that is not worth fighting against. Battles of the kind you allude to are ultimately interior, and therefore, as a consequence, the most fulfilling to win.

    The mindless will l probably never even reach the juncture of opportunity for such fulfillment.
  • A puzzle concerning identity - the incoherence of Gender
    ↪frank
    It's certainly a concept that works on a practical, psychological level, I think. The not identifying oneself as role or even as body (including mind/brain).
  • A puzzle concerning identity - the incoherence of Gender
    ↪frank
    As with the Shakespearean "World as stage - upon which we are but merely actors (paraphrase)", presumably.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    It appears they were. Although always room for a counter revenge, if the corporate prestitutes will be accommodating.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    I have more I'm working on. Sarah Huckabee-Sanders and I are developing a revenge routine together.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    It's a joke to reflect my instinct about the Obama program put in a similar vein to that which is expected these days from stand up comics who are invited to such events as White House correspondents' dinners or who have Colbert or Bill Mayer-like TV shows.
  • A puzzle concerning identity - the incoherence of Gender
    That's a well worn idea. — frank

    Is that a negative vote for the idea if it has been worn well or is it just an observation that the idea is reasonably irrefutable over a long time?

    Your reply just has zero substance in it's structure to know what you mean or where you stand with the idea, so merely for the sake of clarity.....
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    I believe that Obama not only went down as United States president but went down on whoever he needed to to become president.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Agustino
    And the pathological denial continues to this day.
  • A puzzle concerning identity - the incoherence of Gender
    Or what it is like to be a woman? — Banno

    As a male I know what it is like to be a lesbian woman. Does that count?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    I’ve cracked the code.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    Mule-er?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    You’ve bought into the dem vs repub dog and pony show.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    You mean Comey? — Michael

    Comey was being paid by Putin, wasn’t he?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    The main thing, from an anthropological angle, is that you signal your alliances via the means at your disposal.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Baden
    How convenient.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Chairman Mueller has determined that seeing as we're in the lounge, a certain amount of insanity is allowable, so due to HIS glorious clemency, raza escapes the gulag. All hail! — Baden

    What would be the accusation to presumably act upon in such a way ("ban") if we're not in "the lounge"?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Benkei
    That's a long post to describe what amount of time you are wasting of yourself.

    Any more?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    "Troll" is certainly an opinion that could be discussed. "Troll", as I understand it to infer, is when one doesn't necessarily stand with their words.

    I stand with my opinion about the rationale behind the Mueller investigation. Others simply disagree, then some react in an emotional fashion in their disagreement, and then I simply point to the structure used which shows the reactive emotional elements in play.

    "Troll" suggests I am playing you, but I am merely illuminating the play itself.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    You'd be wise to stop the trolling unless you want to self destruc — Benkei

    You're really scary dude.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Our insecurity team is under attack! Defend! Defend!
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Bubble protection code activated!
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