You remind me of me :)

Depression has also been described as having NO emotions. like being in a coma or being sedated or something. Just throwing it out there.

So why "will it further" ?

So willpower is the life-perserver in the ocean of depression. Low willpower could only mean that you are more likely to succomb to depression. But I fail to see the benefits of depresson, unlike fear, that I mentioned.

willpower and control seems to me to be the same in this scenario....

...so people like being depressed? :meh:

is depression rational?

But if you dont overcome it, its self-destructive...a disease.

to survive is to find meaning in the suffering — Blue Lux

...and overcome it?
Depression, seems to me, to be a completely useless and destructive human-condition. Allmost like fear, but not quite. As fear can be a rational feeling, and warn us of dangers, yet be an irrational feeling that prevents us from thinking rational.

And chancing the world to fit you, could be hard or even impossibe, so you either adapt or chance yourself.

low-standards could also mean living a minimalistic and simple life.

set your standards low and you won`t be dissapointed :joke:

OOOOOKKKKKK!!!!!

Thanks! :)

It's the same for a godfull and godless universe. Basically, unless you want to be good in the first place, nothing's going to argue you into it. — gurugeorge

there is allways the treat of going to hell, if there is a god.

But then the idea that one could argue anyone into a "should" was always pretty dubious anyway. Even if you say that "it is good because God wills it" - one can always say "so what?" even to that. — gurugeorge

any without god, it would be even easier to say "so what". but yes, I hear you.

I curtainly dont belive that the goverment is allways right. without question.

I think all of us understand the dilema of a student who was afraid to further inquire about a subject, in fear of the rest of the students would mock him for it. So you risk humiliation in exchange for knowlegde and understanding.

:)

I dont know, but I would do it to..

I guess I was just speaking for myself then.

correct

The ones that maybe would have the chance to help others are the ones that have excessive resources. — Sir2u

If we`re talking about money than it dosent have to be much, as long as others do it to. But I dont want to sound like a hypocrite, because I dont do much to help "strangers". And I have my reason(s) for it, that I have stated before. If the reason(s) are justifiable is a matter of debate offcourse.

I don't know that secular/atheist thinkers would offer to 'do the right thing' for any less self-serving reasons — gloaming

Not true. You do the right thing because it FEELS right and not because you have been tought that it is right.

But I will admit that I have never studied philosophy and dont have the knowledge that the "veterans" in here have. But I want to learn and that is why I am here.

I like to look for errors in other people's work — Bitter Crank

Its a valid form of detecting falsehood, but im talking about the subject itself and not grammer or the likes. No, english isnt my first language, im norwegian. The biggest fear I had before posting anything here was that people would just call me stupid and in a way bully me into leaving. But so far, so good! :)

I have allways viewed "quality" as something that has been put alot of time, love and effort into. doesent have to be perfection...what ever that is.

I shouder to think that religious people are moral and caring for others simply because it will reserve their place in heaven.
someone who does the "right thing" with nothing to win, seems more noble to me.
a bit off-topic perhaps but still...

You know, carrying other people`s burden and so on. Maybe there is such a thing as to be too empathic that it drains your energy in such a strong way that you avoid getting involved in a fear that it would eat you up inside. you know what I mean? It sounds contradictive, I know. But as another exemple, people can be come misanthrophic because they have a strong moral sense, but has seen/heared or read about people doing horrific things to others. you can be so overvelmed that you just simply stop caring.

Well, I see now that empathy is a completly useless "feeling". Sympathy I understand and have felt on several occations but its still a burden, in my mind. I dont think im strong enough to be compassionate to be honest.

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I`ll look into it...

Is there so much of a difference between empathy and compassion? (To lazy to google :) )

To be honest, im not used to "compassion" and that is my short coming and probally the reason im not empathic enough to help. And I fear to many has it like that. But it has to start somewhere, right, if the aim is a better world for everyone?

To me its a little bit about not wanting to carry the weight of the world on my sholders. I have my own to carry. (even tho money has no emotion)

Im not sure, but it curtainly cant be forced upon anyone. its not an obligation for anyone to be empathic.

Well, capitalization is obviouslly important here. Or else you get banned. I have gotten a few warnings. So I just have to remember.

Students who come on the forum to try to get us to do their homework for them. — T Clark

maybe they are here because they trully want to learn.

Maybe through empathy? I think a human-connection and interaction must be established before there is an interest for someone to help "complete strangers". The way I see it anyway...

I never said I had any proof and that was never an issue. It was just an example, for the sake of argument. what would be left then offcourse would just be us humans. No higher entities.