• About mind altering drugs
    And maybe there is a third thing - social lubrication. People feel very self-conscious and distant from each other. Drugs are a way to blur those interpersonal boundaries. But isn't it better to address the causes of this more than the symptoms? What is it about society and other people - or your own habits - that could be changed to remove the same awkwardness that booze or weed allegedly removes?apokrisis

    Excellent observation and nicely articulated.
  • About mind altering drugs
    @Posty McPostface
    Your core on this seems a lot more stable than mine. :heart:
  • About mind altering drugs
    @Posty McPostface
    Have you ever held a hand blown German Christmas ornament?
    If you are any thing like me and I have asked everyone from my Psychiatrist to those with decades of experience what affect am I missing out on in not taking mind altering drugs like MDMA or Mushrooms and every one has agreed with what my Dr. said.
    He said that I have a loose enough grip (which is a plus in western pleasure horse back riding) on reality, that he just wouldn't do it if I could stay away from it.
    As a recovering meth addict with this Sunday marking my 10nth year anniversary of my first Full Day of an Opiate free life, I can only speak from my own withdrawal experiences, which proves there is always a down for every up.
    The first 45 days I functioned at 15% of my pre opiate addicted body. I had atrophy of my muscles and it was as I said 45 long grueling days, feeling a blunt razor shaved every nerve in my body raw until I got my first Dopamine dump. The first signs of life that my Dopamine receptors were needed to function again as they had been supplemented for 5 years was fucking amazing! I broke down crying knowing that I had walked through the worst of the storm and saw the tinyist light a bit further ahead and that kept me going.
    My Dr is right, for me, to advise me against toying with my sense of reality, as it is too delicate to mess with. My OB Dr. warned me 19 yrs ago that my youngest son should be my last pregnancy. Interesting wording, I pressed on. He said the degree of Post Pardom Depression I have is treatable now. He openly said he didn't think my psyche would respoond if I were to.have another pregnancy.
    Years later I told my OB/Gyn what happened with my.Opiate addiction he looked at me and said you are one lucky lady to have made it through the other side of the storm
    And and normally I tell people that "luck" had nothing to do with it but seeing as he delivered my kids, while the Cubs broke my heart, I let it slide.
    It was love and.support that if I jumped off this Dr. prescribed 'ride' there was a network of people who were around me to hold me up, including Dr's as well as family and friends.
    I have had to find humor in other people's intoxication.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Mmmm surely we can muster a little more recognition of what has been accomplished by Trump and Pompeo? We got three hostages returned.
    What is possible? Our getting access to 5,000 of our military family that we will never leave behind, if there is any chance of bringing them home, no matter how much time may pass.
    A dialogue between multiple countries including the United States on how to gracefully handle the changes of the future without further damage to any country.
    The very contemplation of ending our war games, downsizing our children's presence in the DMZ and the waters of Japan is music to so many families ears here in the USA, mine included.
    My God in Heaven, to hear that the Korean War is over?
    Damned be the haters and the naysayers.
    Peace is the goal and it is only in the absence of hate that it can grow.
  • Suicide and Death
    Is suicide the weak man's way out or the brave man's way in?
  • Wiser Words Have Never Been Spoken
    Hey! I resemble that remark.T Clark

    :wink:
  • Welcome to The Philosophy Forum - an introduction thread
    @SteveKlinko
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
    We are glad you are here!
  • Welcome to The Philosophy Forum - an introduction thread
    @Belter
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
    Enjoy your stay!
  • Wiser Words Have Never Been Spoken
    How about the sex difference in IQ? — tom

    I don't know.T Clark

    Golden words that I have rarely heard from a male. :heart:
  • Is casual sex immoral?
    Like I said in the first sentence, there is no 100% proven effective method of contraception other than abstinence. Therefore, all sex risks pregnancy.Ronin3000

    Mmm does that include married sex? :lol:
  • The Last Word
    Monday.... :meh:
  • The objective-subjective trap
    In the medical field there is a term of SOAP notes on a patient. That acronym delineates the difference between objective and subjective this way. S stands for subjective reporting: that which the patient themselves are reporting. O stands for Objective reporting: that which the Doctor observed of the patient while in their presence. A stands for Assessment: the Doctors diagnosis and P stands for Plan of Action: what treatment is prescribed, for what diagnosis and the anticipated result from the treatment plan.

    That seems to suggest to me, that there is a HUGE difference between objective and subjective reasoning. One assessment is from me and one from you. Which is subjective or objective changes situationally.
  • Wiser Words Have Never Been Spoken
    It's no wonder you're getting lost, you're inverting what I said. What I meant is that we speak of the unintelligible as an unknown. This implies that the unintelligible is an instance of the unknown, it does not mean that all unknowns are unintelligible. Therefore, that you provide an example of an unknown which is not an unintelligible, is really irrelevant, it just means that you misunderstood what I said.Metaphysician Undercover

    This feels very circular. :sweat:
  • Wiser Words Have Never Been Spoken
    Yes, we are all intellectual superheros.T Clark

    :100:
  • Forced to dumb it down all the time
    Far too often those of above average intelligence succumb to the same instinctive emotions as everyone else because they are smarter. Anyone who is truly considers themselves more intelligent knows in some corner of themselves that once you see past the emotions of aggravation, impatience and so forth, including those trigger by the targeted experiences of some who stood out early for their intelligence, you realize that it is part of the burden and responsibility of your intellect. Nature didn't single you out to be smarter because you are awesome. With it comes the responsibility to consider, create and contribute. With that comes doing what necessary to communicate what you know to those who have a harder time grasping it. You are meant to enhance and expand the knowledge of the species. I read somewhere that a 30 point gap in IQ's can significantly impact communication. Seems to me if I'm at the higher side of that range its really up to me to get the information across. I hear people like visuals :)MiloL

    YES!!!!
    I agree with EVERYTHING you said AND I managed to read your whole response without my eyes glazing over in loss of understanding like just happened to me with T.Clark's post above. People just assume that you are on the same thinking level and learn the same as them and that can be very intimidating to even consider asking a question of. However your approach makes it clear that you understand people like me, people who feel and are fundamentally rooted in emotion. That approach sets my curiosity on fire and I am wanting to learn because it feels like we are learning it together....I am not sure that makes sense but it is a very emotional part of learning for me.

    Having said that, my son who is in college is in such a high level math class that when he comes home and interacts with the family, he has a hard time converting back to basic math. I realize it sounds absurd but you can see him having to work at turning down his knowledge to entertain such simple math problems.
  • Welcome to The Philosophy Forum - an introduction thread
    @Kamikaze Butter
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
    We are glad you are here~
  • Welcome to The Philosophy Forum - an introduction thread
    @Fool
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
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    @Pattern-chaser
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
    I do hope you enjoy our forum~
  • Welcome to The Philosophy Forum - an introduction thread
    @TogetherTurtle
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
    You are never too young, but if I may ask, what is considered too young these days?
    Enjoy your stay~
  • The Last Word
    :hearts: Memorial day
  • What are you listening to right now?
    Seems somewhat fitting with the present mood
  • Wiser Words Have Never Been Spoken
    A person's opinions are formed through their way of thinking and the information that they have. Most people don't see the opposing arguments as valid because their mind deals with the information differently and it is difficult to see from someone else's point of view.Sir2u
    :heart:
  • This place is special.

    You are an amazing person to take the time to write about us! Thank you for being you! I do hope to get to know you better ~
    Tiffers
  • This place is special.
    You do show off in that way.Bitter Crank

    How does what TimeLine shares about the actives of her day make her a "show off? Because it is usually a healthy activity?

    By that logic, you would think I am showing off when I share my daily activities of mucking horse shit and tossing bales of hay, as it is just as healthy as hiking, granted the scent is different but the activity is still healthy.
  • Expressing masculinity
    No, it was a facade. But, you get the point don't you? This is a special place.Posty McPostface

    What was the "facade"? And yes, I DO get the point that this is a special place.

    Over the past decade I have talked privately to the administration of both PF and TPF and I think all of the moderators individually, letting them know just how much I value their being here.

    Remember that the forum, any forum is nothing without it's members and their contributions, so I do try to handle those I meet here carefully and lovingly.

    And that is not a facade, it's who I genuinely am and my hope is that it is enough for you.
  • Expressing masculinity
    whoa I meant nothing of the sort. I do apologize if that is how I came across. I am sorry.
  • Losing Games
    Fact is: nobody is truly (or genuinely) here. Hello! It's an internet forum; where usually the only thing you learn from other members is:
    1) Who they want you to think they are, and
    2) What kind of games they like to play under a cloak of anonymity.
    Galuchat

    Dude, I really feel sorry for you if you don't genuinely know anyone on the Internet. However that doesn't change the genuine relationships that I have between myself and others on the Internet. Cloaks of anonymity are often removed with honesty and being genuine.

    For example, you seem to be very much into playing a Mommy game with me now, a hostess game with newcomers at other times, and a dispenser of awards for politically correct posts at other times.Galuchat

    Well I be damned! You just listed off the skills I genuinely use in my life outside of the Internet! Those skills are called "caring" about people other than ourselves. I have a tendency to do that for other people regardless if I have something to gain from them or not. Unconditional love maybe? Genuine kindness? Absolutely.

    Whatever floats your boat, but don't kid yourself into thinking any of that has anything to do with practising the discipline of philosophy.Galuchat

    Hey thanks for issuing me permission of free will! One thing I learned is to look at who is making the judgement of me before putting an ounce of weight behind it.

    As for your reply: I found it amusing, but definitely not worth reading.
    Take a Hike.
    Galuchat

    Then don't bother reading me. We have an ignore function but it takes free will to utilize. :up:
  • Am I being too sensitive?
    @Hanover
    I personally appreciate your taking most of the heat here, though I want you to know, your humor has gotten me through a lot of dark times and for that I am Thankful for the shoutboxes existence. :heart:
  • Am I being too sensitive?
    I've given my opinion but I'd like to achieve some kind of consensus if possible.

    Put it this way, if most of the mod team and most posters want to censor the dirty jokes to some degree, we could enact that and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I doubt that's the case though.

    (One suggestion btw would be to have them hidden behind a reveal button like gifs should be.)
    Baden

    Baden, you know me and the last thing I want to do is make anyone feel like the TPF is an unsafe place to explore the many paths we share in our pursuit of wisdom. I have personally made less than classy remarks in the shoutbox that have made Posty uncomfortable and he said so but I many times didn't really hear him.

    So I too am listening but a concensus on something as simple as the color of the sky is unachievable with a group of 'thinkers' but that is what makes us good, as a group 'thinkers.

    Having said that, if I am able to learn how to use the "reveal" button, I will keep my sassy remarks for only those that care to read them.

    I think that is what I will do because I do not wish to have any censoring of the shoutbox because as silly as it is, it is a place where we can take a load off, let down our hair and speak easy and without fear of laughing too loudly, together. :heart:

    On a side note, Thank you for being here for us, to engage with us and for staying up way past your bedtime to make sure the forum members were heard. :heart:
  • Am I being too sensitive?
    @Posty McPostface
    I am sorry for offending you and for my part in giving you any reason to feel uncomfortable or unsafe here at TPF. :heart:
    Many wise members have spoken on this thread about not taking things personally but I am not very good at it, at all.
    But there is a way to cut through the bullshit and that is by being you and remainig gentle. Remaining gentle against the occasional White tower opinions, remain sensitive against those who say no one cares what you say, remain you and be proud of being sensitive! Be proud to care about others and how we all work to get along! Meet anger with kindness and greet those who judge with unconventional love and apply it lavishly as maybe some of it will stick. Or not. And if it is the latter? Then that is their problem, not yours.
  • Losing Games
    How sad.
    It's just an internet forum (i.e., an anonymous group of people playing all sorts of different games for all sorts of different reasons). Occassionally, someone writes something worth reading.
    Galuchat

    Hiya Galuchat!
    It really isn't "sad" at all. Quite the opposite in fact. I believe if you are truly here, practicing the discipline of philosophy, there is an endless amount we can learn about ourselves and those around us.
    To me what is "sad" is that you have been a member here at TPF for a year and yet only find someone "occasionally writes something worth reading". My feeling is that in life, you get out what you put in and TPF is a slice of life, a glimpse of another's perspective and that to me is valuable. But what is priceless is the genuineness that each member offers, whether I agree with them or not. Oh and one more thing and I will be on my way, overtime you might find out that those you disagree with today, you agree with tomorrow.
    Happy Trails
  • Welcome to The Philosophy Forum - an introduction thread
    @Uber
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
    Enjoy your stay~
  • Welcome to The Philosophy Forum - an introduction thread
    I'll just rewrite the thesis with the same concept behind it and see if I can fit that in into the space allotted.

    I've received some positive feedback since then so I'm more hopeful now.
    betsyforaer

    Excellent! Keep reaching for the stars!
  • Welcome to The Philosophy Forum - an introduction thread
    @Sum Dude
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
    We are so glad you found us! It appears you are making quite the splash!
    Enjoy! :cool:
  • The Last Word
    I figured out while mucking horse shit that PITA (Pain In The Ass) co-workers and horses have something in common: they both dump a whole lot of shit!
  • Wiser Words Have Never Been Spoken
    Excuse me for probably twisting your words there btw. It seemed convenient...Baden
    :rofl: :lol: Such rich words coming straight from the administration!
    :heart: :cheer: :party:
  • The Last Word
    @Lone Wolf
    Your coworkers? The animal world? One in the same?
    While mucking, I have noticed a commonality between the two... :rofl:

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