Can artificial intelligence be creative, can it create art? The issue here seems to me to be skewed, firstly one has to recognise that artificial intelligence is produced by human hand, with this in mind we return to the question of art and its engagement with productive forces. Arvatov, Benjamin and others have stressed the importance of arts engagement with the means of production / reproduction as artistic praxis, art even in the form of painting has relied less and less upon the expressive hand of the artist and more upon mechanical and digital modes of production. For me the use of artificial intelligence in artistic production is a logical extension of this