@Devans99

"If you have a proposition X and also propositions Y and ~Y then you can prove X is absolutely false if you can show:

X AND Y = false
X AND ~Y = false

Then by exhaustion of the probability space, we can absolutely conclude that X is false. Note that we have not used any axioms to prove that X is false so it is 'absolute knowledge'."

Makes sense to me, but i'm sure you know if you were in a control tower at an airport even though you are required to make good judgements, those judgements must be made quickly and fairly accurately in a short period of time, in other words out in public there are alot of variables.

i guess this a question directed at Christians. If you've heard alot of sermons you might know what i'm talking about. I believe religion is another word for a system of theological beliefs.

i'll have to rewrite that article on electronically assisted bartering so that it is more elaborate. My hope was that someone would understand what i was getting at. In my understanding of modern algorithms is that they can be very complex. I do find it unlikely that i would be able to write the software by my self which is why i was hoping mulitple organizations or groups other than myself would write it.

Only time will tell.

"I believe it is highly possible whether we are christians or even if there is no god that everything is predestined or in other words we dont have free will."

Thats what i said, right wrong or indifferent i associate predestination with a lack of free will and i thought i would be understood.

i searched all 3 pages of the forum on that topic about free will and i didn't find the test. Could you repost the test?

i never said we dont have free will i said its possible that we dont have free will as far as i remember what i said. i have to figure out how to quickly move through this site and let me go look for that test you said.

if a man or woman had extremely advanced technology and some how managed to pass into higher dimensions (there is a youtube video called "10 dimensions explained"). I believe this would be a logical reason to say there is a god.

i believe rationality is everything if you are forced at your job to be as productive as possible in a given time.
if your boss is nice i would be less concerned about being completely being rational.
That being said i believe if you can honestly say you are fairly certain that there is little to no evidence that there is no god than you should not believe in god.
In my opinion though it is dangerous to apply mathematics and reasoning to all subjects. I believe some subjects are better left to be in a hazy semi drunkenous.

1 + 1 = 2
if x = 1
and
y = 1
then
1 + 1 = x + y


i hope this helps

i would agree that absolute truth can rarely be found using discrete mathematics or boolean algebra but must be found using statistical data points, high sampling rates for something akin to a graph (2d, 3d, 4d). If you have ever seen the movie Charlie Brown (the new one) they have a scene where he is doing a book report on some famous book and he is using strings to connect and cross connect different ideas in his room. I believe absolute truth is rarely found unless you use complex sentences that have the qualities of complex mathematical equations. Some people claim eventually people will just communicate with algebra. That sounds depressing to me.

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I believe it is highly possible whether we are christians or even if there is no god that everything is predestined or in other words we dont have free will. If particles reactions to each other are governed by physics and other fields of science then how can we who are made of particles actually decide our fate.

That being said assuming my christian values are true i do believe God could forget the cosmic chess game that is reality (in terms of game piece combinations and game rules and tactics) and purposely allow him the possibility to lose some cosmic chess matches. I would hope he wouldn't lose any cosmic chess matches that would cause someone to go to hell.

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"Gnostic Christian Bishop"

I don't expect you to believe this bartering website would work just based off of a short description but one of the things this site does is between 5 to 200 people trying to get what they want each person would only have to ship one item or a set of item to one other person (or provide a service to one other person). The software would coordinate everything so that even though what you are providing isn't directly applied to who you are recieving your good or service, every on in fact would be getting their good or service for their desired good or service and all this is coordinated through the algorithm on the server. Modern society has certailnly designed much more complex software but i've been wrong before.

we have the cpu power as well as cell phones with alot of cpu power that we could design websites that allow the problems of bartering to be eliminated. Please read this very short essay that my friend brought up:

A friend of mine gave me a idea on how to make bartering work almost as well as the use of money. It involves using servers and possibly thin clients where a person would be registered in the system just like many websites, and then the user would offer a good or service. The program or website would use data mining to find a scale from 1 to 100 for conservative and liberal estimates (respectivelly) of what that good or service is worth in monetary terms and then the user would say what good or service they want to exchange for (that would also have a scale value in monetary terms). The user would decide what value on the scale she wants. The user would be rewarded by the algorithm and the website by a quicker response if she chooses a conservative value on the scale. Since 99% of users would be able to get the swap they want by only swapping with up to 200 users that would be sufficient. In most cases a user could get what they want by less than 5 people swapping goods and services. The users who respond the quickest by agree to the all the transactions that would have to take place would be rewarded with a very small amount of money (similar to youtube's reward system).

The switching algorithm that decides between all the people involved in the huge "trade off" would borrow heavliy from a router or ARP packet switching system (computer network communication). It would also have some elements that are not used in ARP packet switching. ARP white papers can be found online.

At the end of the process using computer processing and many trades among users all users will have traded their goods and services for other people's goods and services.

Feel free to use my friend's idea to start your business or expand your business. My friend wants to see this get accomplished again sooner rather than later.