Nah, much more likely to be:
L. Did you strike my client with your fist? Yes or no.
D. Well, he came at me with a tire iron...
L. I asked you YES or NO did you strike my client with your fist?
J. Please answer yes or no. — LuckyR
↪PL Olcott
Exactly my point. Lawyers are almost universally understood to be a prime example of someone uninterested in the truth, and instead seek to manipulate others to give answers that serve the lawyer's best interest. — LuckyR
Though one can argue there's no such thing as an inherently "yes/no" question, — LuckyR
There is nothing wrong with the question concept. However it can be criticized as a fallacy known as a "False Dilemma." Then again, my answer might be considered hasty. — Rocco Rosano
↪PL Olcott
Science necessarily entails elements of subjectivity. After all, it's about what we (subjects) think is going on in the world. — Count Timothy von Icarus
It seems to me like you can definitely ask bad questions. — Count Timothy von Icarus
An incorrect question is defined as a question that lacks a correct
answer because there is something wrong with the question. — PL Olcott
Can Carol correctly answer “no” to this [yes/no] question? — PL Olcott
What time is it (yes or no)? — PL Olcott
RE: Does the idea of incorrect questions make sense?
※→ et al,
No... It can be answered as a ratio. — Rocco Rosano
It would have a bit more bite to it if he replaced "colourless ideas" with an actual colourless idea. — flannel jesus
Is it incorrect to ask what the value of π is? — wonderer1
↪PL Olcott
Uummm... I see a greater problem with the artificial constraint of the set of possible answers than I do with the questions, per sè. — LuckyR
I accepted your answer. You cited many more good examples.↪PL Olcott Does this notion of incorrect question make sense?
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Yes, it is is possible to have an incorrect question. — Rocco Rosano
An incorrect question is defined as a question that lacks a correct
answer because there is something wrong with the question. — PL Olcott
Not really to me, no. Questions can contain false hidden assumptions, be leading, be rhetorical, be impossible to answer coherently etc. But only answers can be incorrect. Questions are not claims about anything. — bert1
Here's an excerpt from a book which I did not purchase: — L'éléphant
I said it is not recognized in philosophy. Or Philosophy, for the proper name. The words "logically impossible" is never formally accepted as epistemic terms. — L'éléphant
— Impossible Worlds (Stanford Encyclopaedia, my bolding) — Banno
PL Olcott "logically impossible" is not recognized in philosophy. It's either "illogical" or "impossible". The two are used in different contexts. — L'éléphant
↪PL Olcott It's an inveterate issue in Psychoceramics. — Banno
↪PL Olcott Yeah, OK. No progress to be made here. Publish your article and then invite me to the ceremony when you win the Turing Award so you can say "I told you so". — Banno
↪PL Olcott Yeah, OK. No progress to be made here. Publish your article and then invite me to the ceremony when you win the Turing Award so you can say "I told you so". — Banno
Yep. Quite agree. If your conclusion is a logical impossibility, there is something amiss with your assumptions. — Banno
If one's assumptions lead to contradiction, then at least one is in error. Assuming we can produce H leads to contradiction. Hence we cannot produce H. — Banno
If you would prove Turing wrong, you will need more than mere assertion. — Banno
You started this with Carol's question, went on to claim that Gödel's theorem was wrong, backtracked to Turing and now obfuscate. — Banno
↪PL Olcott What you have done is to display the contradiction that we all agree on. It's what you conclude from that which is problematic. — Banno
↪PL Olcott
Assume to reach a contradiction that there exists a program Halt(P, I) that solves the halting problem,
— Prof Kirk Pruhs — Banno
↪PL Olcott I wouldn't be here apart from trying to help articulate the point.
That's why I've asked you to show as explicitly as you can where Carol's question occurs.
In the other thread I suggested that the analogue would be "Will Program Z loop forever if fed itself as input?"
— Banno — Banno
↪PL Olcott Repetition and appeal to (supposed) authority. — Banno
Well, no. The correct thing to do is conclude that H is impossible; that there are things which cannot be computed. — Banno
Well, no. The correct thing to do is conclude that H is impossible; that there are things which cannot be computed.
8 hours ago — Banno
...and the trouble with that is that there doesn't seem to be any obvious problem with Z. — Banno
When it finds a contradiction is derived by a decision problem
then it is this decision problem that must be rejected.
— PL Olcott
Why? Isn't that just special pleading? — Banno
Yes this applies generally.
— PL Olcott
To all reductio arguments? — Banno
Does this apply generally? Are all supposed reductio arguments so flawed? They all contain a logical impossibility...
This by way of pointing out that your argument is not well-formed. — Banno
Where's the flaw? — Banno
You keep saying that. Sure. Turing's argument is not an example of that. It is a reductio. — Banno
↪PL Olcott I, and most logicians, agree that
requiring the logically impossible is an invalid requirement
— PL Olcott
and yet see the argument as valid. — Banno
↪PL Olcott Again, it just seems to me that you have misunderstood the structure of Turing's argument. — Banno
When an assumption leads to a contradiction, the assumption must be rejected. — Banno
↪PL Olcott It's a reductio. The contradiction you point to is a direct consequence of assuming that the halting problem can be solved. It is what shows that the halting problem cannot be solved. — Banno
When such a contradiction is met, one ought go back and check one's assumptions. The assumption that must be rejected in your work is that there can be an algorithm that correctly predicts whether any Turing Machine will halt. — Banno