Already addressed that in that same post.

And it was writing rabbits.

case by case. . .

My use a straw man is a bit flexible, but I am not getting ahead of the game, that is where the creation of such silly standards lead. Also I clearly addressed your topic, you know the part you left out.

It would be a case by case assessment based on what we know about humans and the thing in question, obviously conceptual items differ from the tangible, so they would need a different assessment.

Your thoughtless attempt to make absolute standards is a straw-man and a vain attempt to create a no true scotsman fallacy.

Some of us live with the fact that we can't explain everything.

This is nothing but an attempt to create a no true scotsman fallacy.

Somehow I am not surprised that common sense is a unknown concept to you.

Let's see, do dogs talk about god? Can't say I ever heard dogs talk about god. How about cats? Do cats go door to door selling their worthless god theories? I have seen them go door to door for food, but I have never seen a cat go door to door to shove their religious beliefs down a stranger's throats.

I have never rabbits write a book about gods, I have never seen a bird preaching about its messiah on TV. There is only one animal on this planet who cannot shut up about god, and strangely enough the collective conceptualize of god is a reflection of the narcissistic human mind. Because only humans are egotistical enough to actually believe, that not only do they know how everything was created, but that creator actually gives a shit about them.

The god concept is clearly human made, the system I am using I like to call common sense.

How do you personally distinguish these terms: — Marty

By context.

It is amazing what people just gloss over so they can convince themselves that they are immortal. Are you really that scared of death?

I wonder if the massive physical stress of almost dying could put strain on the human brain? Do you think that is possible? Or maybe when you are close to death invisible shoe fairies pop out and drug you.

No evidence, none at all, not one tiny bit of evidence.

How about you address my central point, that you have no evidence at all of a cause effect relationship.

You are one making a huge deal over the observational, trying to act all formal. I think with my statement you realized the giant gap in your assessment and now you are back peddling. You now want it to be less formal. That is what people like you do, when you realize that your "mountain" of evidence is really just a pile of BS you become wishy washy.

Don't care.

Before you try to act scientific maybe learn the very basics of science.

http://bolt.mph.ufl.edu/6050-6052/unit-2/causation-and-observational-studies/

You have not presented any evidence at all to support the claim that NDEs are caused by the consciousnesses leaving the body. None at all. All you did was try to pathetically stack the deck in favor of your "testimony" while overlooking the one of the most basic principles in science: Observation does not prove causation.

Can anyone here show that NDEs are caused by the consciousness leaving the body?

It is testimony after all.

Also correlation does not mean causation.

That is a lot of effort to BS yourself.

Guess my ego is not as large as yours. I am not interested in convincing people of my point of view, I rather people think for themselves.

Not interested in your "traumatic events", everyone thinks their life is the worst, get over yourself.

Oh, yes, I am sure you have experienced the worst life has to offer. . . . :-}

Look, the point is that telling someone that their ideas are stupid and a waste of time doesn't advance a discussion — Bitter Crank

I disagree with that assessment.

That is until you crash and burn. Your "negative" emotions are part of who you are, that is not something you can hide from or escape. I already know that I am troll and an ass, but in this, I am right and in time you will agree with me.

I think we already established that you are too weak to stand on your own two feet.

Ya, I don't care. People always make the mistake of assuming that I should be inclined to be reasonable, but I am not. I think your "world view" is just another grossly oversimplified take of something you are too limited to grasp.

I think you are assuming too much there of what I said. Most the world is stupid, I never said anything about separating myself out from that assessment. I just realize that humans have such a poor grasp of reality and they like to make up stupid crap to deal with that lack of understanding.

Then what we have here is an agree to disagree scenario — TranscendedRealms

The great cop out. Ya I don't agree to disagree, you are withdrawing and I still think your "worldview" is a waste of words.

how could you blame me though? — TranscendedRealms

First, I don't care about your "inner light" you can preach that nonsense all day long and I'll just keep dismissing it. Second, you are the only person with any true control of your life and who you are, if you are weak then it by your own faults.

Actually, most of the people in the world believe in some kind of religion, and accept the idea of God, transcendent realms, divine light, and so on. — Bitter Crank

Most the people in the world are stupid.

I do not agree with your definition of weak because I have my own defined terms — TranscendedRealms

I don't really care, I smell weakness.

As long as he has the inner light, then he is filled with powerful good life force and he is like a being of light. — TranscendedRealms

Bunch of nonsense.

Lastly, I have struggled 10 whole years with misery. — TranscendedRealms

I am well aware you think that you are special; however, I don't share that view.


The rest is just babble.

So you purposely limit your life because you are too weak to face yourself.

Honestly, that does not sound like a healthy well balanced life to me. You are trying to avoid an important aspect of who you are, and I promise you that you will fail.

It would be better if you knew how to handle and accept these "negative" emotions so when the crap really hits the fan you'll be ready to face it. Hiding from yourself never works, somehow you always catch up to yourself.

There are no bad emotions or "negative" emotions, these emotions are trying to tell you something and guide you, recognizing them and listening to them is part of a healthy mindset.

I am not talking about your nondescript "miserable moments". Everyone feels bad from time to time, you are not special in that regards. Don't you ever purposely do something that scares you? Something that is a big risk? Something that you may fail at?

Don't you ever challenge yourself?

I did not simply say that positive emotions are the objective good and negative emotions being the objective bad as that would be too simple. I also introduced the concept of mixed emotions: — TranscendedRealms

I never said you did, but not that you mention it, it is implied when you label them "positive" and "negative", as that implication is inherit in the words themselves. However, I was referring to the simple fact that you think there are "positive" and "negative" emotions.

Lastly, as for life experience and getting out, I do this all the time. I go out in nature and out in the community. So, there is no problem here — TranscendedRealms

Oh wow, nature? And the community? So vastly experienced. . . . :-}

It is still very much black and white, a limited frame that is way too binary. It is also overly simplistic and ridged to be significantly shaped to life. I mean if that is the sum of your world view then you need to experience more of life.