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  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    I don't see how loving intent produces a threat, because it'll poke your eyes out, but threats are produced by threatening intent.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    I don't feel very loved when I'm threatened, so no - it couldn't.

    But go ahead, if you have an example, present it.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    Go ahead and threaten me with loving intent.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    And where's the vague harm in those? They're clearly malicious.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    " is too vague to make generalizations about. — Terrapin Station
    What's vague about death threats and slander?
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    And you don't see the harm in that?
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    Why would that be in favor of my ego? Be a free speech absolutist means that I'm endorsing that people be allowed to call for my death, to commit slander/libel against me, etc. How is that in service to one's ego? — Terrapin Station
    Are you actually endorsing that?
  • On Antinatalism
    ↪S
    The world is a bad place and there's no point in living, so why have kids?

    Reminds me of an old folktale, where a boy refuses to wash 'cause he'll just get dirty again, so his folks stop feeding him 'cause he'll just get hungry again.
  • On Antinatalism
    You brought up Buddhism that supposedly says that desire is suffering, but that's not what it says, what it actually says is that attachment to desire is suffering. Buddhists decidedly do not agree with you in saying that desire is suffering. — leo
    To say it even simpler - overindulgence is harmful.
    The Middle Path is no different from Goldilocks' just right.
  • A Genderless God
    You do know that Christianity, primarily, kept women from voting for centuries. in the West, right? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
    Keyword - in the west.
    Meaning only Catholic schmuckery and barbarism.

    ↪Noble Dust

    Tradition.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    Problematic in semblance and inherently problematic aren't mutually exclusive
  • A Genderless God
    They aren't. — Artemis
    Plain wrong.

    There are countless examples the in the Bible that suggest adultery is a crime, especially female adultery. — Artemis
    Yes, and the one I noted doesn't state otherwise - but it shows that Christianity doesn't endorse oppressing women, but treats them fairly.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    Things desire to move. That's obvious.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    Problems are undesirables. Drowning is undesirable to one's health.
    That someone might be suicidal, doesn't make drowning desirable to one's health, but makes one's health undesirable.

    The flaw here is that you think that people can't desire problems.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    Re-read:
    It's objectively problematic in terms of vitality. — Shamshir

    It's a problem for and of every living person.
    Consequently those who want to live will stray from it, and those who do not, will not.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪Terrapin Station
    It's objectively problematic in terms of vitality. Everyone who values their health finds it a problem.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    It's a subjective opinion whether something is a problem. — Terrapin Station
    How subjective of a problem is drowning, for instance?
  • A way to prove philosophically that we are smart enough to understand a vision of any complexity?
    ↪Wayfarer
    Sure.
    Because understanding is reciprocal, there's humans who don't understand other humans; as is often the case on the forum.
  • A way to prove philosophically that we are smart enough to understand a vision of any complexity?
    But the problem is, even if the dog could understand me, he has no concept of revulsion. — Wayfarer
    And maybe it does, but it doesn't share your view on revulsion. Perhaps what you find revolting, it views as sanitary.
  • On Antinatalism
    ↪Wallows
    It's not even about that.
    It's the indulgence of fear that's off-putting, the paranoia.

    If you put an antinatalist alone on an island with his or her crush, do you think he or she would be as prone to paranoic bouts of suffering?
  • On Antinatalism
    ↪S
    Obviously. And that's precisely why they're all depressed - waving the 'rigged game' flag in terms of an unsuitable for procreation world.

    It's the childish lust after victory, over the enjoyment of life, that puts them in this situation. They don't want to lose and thus refuse to play i.e procreate.
    And you know this.
  • Feminism is Not Intersectional
    ↪Bitter Crank
    You'd think that after the plethora of false indications within the last sixty years, that these sorts of events would be less prominent, rather than more. But I guess there's always a school of stray guppies ready to bite the shiny hook.
  • On Antinatalism
    ↪Wallows
    They're obviously depressed, and if not outright suicidal, apparently self deprecating.

    So, I wonder how you came about the notion that they do not succumb to either ailment?
  • On Antinatalism
    ↪Wallows
    What do you mean - does not?
    It's exactly like a child that loses once in a game and refuses to continue playing the rigged game, so as to not embarass itself.
  • What triggers Hate? Do you embrace it?
    ↪Gnostic Christian Bishop
    Recognize and rectify.
  • A Genderless God
    Jewish mysticism has a tradition of viewing God as male and female. — Noble Dust
    As does every other. The traditional sense of gender is as extro- ambi- and introversion; rather than the mockup that's taken its place.

    I would say, Christianity didn't invent it, but it was founded on it, benefited from it, and endorsed it. — Artemis
    I don't see how it would benefit from it, considering women are the prominent benefactor of Christianity.

    And if it endorses such behaviour, then why did Jesus defend the woman caught in adultery, against the Jewish law?
  • Bannings
    What sort of secret is it if A Gnostic Agnostic knows about it? — Terrapin Station
    The name says it all.
  • Why the Euthyphro fails
    Because they are contingent on a subject's will, whether that will is a human, animal, rock, Reason or God. — bert1
    I figured. Perhaps the word to be used there is 'intrinsic' - and then point one also falls apart, as it permits both.
  • The Last Word
    ↪Noble Dust
    The second part seems sketchy.
  • Why the Euthyphro fails
    ↪bert1
    For what reason?
  • Is there a logic that undermines "belief" in a god?
    Then S2= — alcontali
    Is this intentional?
  • What triggers Hate? Do you embrace it?
    ↪S
    It's short for Aswang.
  • Bannings
    Now ban the emoji users.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪NOS4A2
    Thanks.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪NOS4A2
    Probable cause clearly states that the detained is suspected of criminal activity, not that he has committed any.

    Airport security checks function this way.
    Ever been detained and searched at an airport?
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪NOS4A2
    Because the judicial system doesn't support your claim. Neither the article, nor my experience with law enforcement support your claim.

    What has you so convinced in your theory?
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪NOS4A2
    .How much first hand experience with the judicial system do you have?
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    ↪NOS4A2
    It happened 20 years ago, and no, we didn't and still don't have grounds to sue.
    If me or my friend did sue it would be ruled off as frivolous.
  • Existence is relative, not absolute.
    ↪Terrapin Station
    Rather than rushing to respond, think it through for once.
  • Existence is relative, not absolute.
    Do you think that your subjective experience of Mount Everest is identical to Mount Everest? — Terrapin Station
    Obviously. Otherwise, on your terms, it's just a bunch of atoms.
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