Progress towards what? Some, including myself, have asked PJ what his goal is, what the purpose of the thread is, to no avail. — Banno

I've asked him that too.

Progress towards an actual discussion where PJ doesn't just copy and paste verbatim responses which don't constitute an actual discussion. Seriously.

How to tell one from the other...
Crackpot bad.
Eccentric good. — Banno

Oh? So, if it's "bad", it's a crackpot, but if it's "good", it's an eccentric?

Show me.

Indeed!

I think I do. Have you or anyone made any progress? I don't think so.

That some beliefs may occur in science — ProgrammingGodJordan

Woah buddy!

That's why I'm saying...just stop responding...

They're strange little curiosities which I purchase regularly for the sole purpose of beginning but never finishing. There's a fine line between ambition, masochism, and denial.

Surely you can think of something beautiful to contribute. :)

Redi is adorable. I'm slowly, begrudgingly, becoming a dog person. I still could never own one, though.

Neigh to upvotes

Old book covers:



My roommate Carl:



This drop of water:



Walking On Water, by Makoto Fujimura:

think you have to be a subscriber for it to work. Not sure — T Clark

Oh man, pay to play, eh?

I have sleep paralysis as well. What are your thoughts on it?

How? Lol, I'm the most tech illiterate millennial of all time.

What's the purpose of all these questions? — Purple Pond

With the questions, I'm trying to demonstrate that assigning purpose to morality always appears to have a deeper layer. I'm not trying to be a smart ass; when we say the purpose of morality is for the flourishing of society, I think that not only is it a relevant question to ask what the purpose of a flourishing society is, but it's also crucial to understanding morality at all. We often begin with an assumption about the purpose of morality, and if we do, then there's always a deeper layer to uncover.

If there is a purpose to morality, such as a healthy and functioning society — Purple Pond

What's the purpose of a healthy and functioning society? What's the purpose of building a house the right way? What's the purpose of teaching math the right way to kids, and what's the purpose of wanting kids to learn?

Really, even just undergrad? I took a few courses, but didn't major in it. This guy doesn't strike me as a fresh undergrad with a fire under his ass. I would hope a fresh undergrad would at least be able to debate concepts.

I garner concepts all day, bish

The only issue is this:

Thus, I shall underline a summary below, until I return in roughly 12 hours. — ProgrammingGodJordan

I could grant lack of sincerity, at least potentially. The book sales thing combined with the verbatim repetition of unexplained talking points does suggest insincerity. But there does seem to be an almost-but-not-quite-conscious denial that's working in conjunction with it.

The sales quota is looking grim.

Hey, you have to give him more than that too. Provided that he's not trolling, he certainly believes he's not using them as synonyms! — Πετροκότσυφας

Ah yes; I need to make room for his beliefs! Far be it from me to suggest to him that beliefs themselves should be abolished, when he so clearly holds beliefs of his own.

And thank Satan that when two words are synonyms in the thesaurus, they are therefore interchangeable and mean the exact same thing, rather than being words that express fine shades of meaning!

Once more, that you believe, does not suddenly warrant that everybody believes. — ProgrammingGodJordan

That's not even a response to Banno.

Such is a typical response; for I have observed that many people don't tend to scrutinize beyond scientistic belief, as you continue to demonstrate well.

A review:

What?

2.Why do you feel it is arrogant for me to teach, but quite alright for me to learn, due to some odd boundary, such as my time spent on this particular forum? — ProgrammingGodJordan

I find it arrogant for you to think you can teach, because not only do you not have anything meaningful to teach anyone, but you fail to recognize your own arrogance, your own inability to examine your own pre-existing beliefs, and your own failure to engage in charitable philosophical debate on a philosophy forum.

What?

Goal 1. is a good goal, and I trust you're learning a lot.

Goal 2. is pretty arrogant, given that you're new to the forum. I had a similar mindset when I joined. I've done a whole lot of learning, and basically 0 teaching. You'll find it's the same for you if you stick around; if you do, please learn to debate, though.

What is your goal with this thread?

Dude, one of the main problems is that you sound like a robot.

In stark contrast:
I had been a theist for quite a long while.
Four years ago, I had become an atheist.
Recently, I had come to scrutinize the very concept of belief, and not merely religious belief. — ProgrammingGodJordan

You appear to be a fundamentalist atheist, yes. That's a common outcome for someone who has an emotionally violent divorce from religion.

As far as I have observed, people don't tend to go beyond item (2) above, — ProgrammingGodJordan

Which is (2)? You made this statement on line 2...

your words demonstrate that you are one of said people. — ProgrammingGodJordan

Which people, and why make erroneous assumptions about me? My beliefs (none of which I've stated, and none of which you are aware of) are much more complex than the binary thinking you're using here.

one need not belief to observe evidence — ProgrammingGodJordan

*believe

In between insanity and insincerity is self-deceptive fundamentalism, which I think is where our OP is situated. It's the inability to question one's own assumptions (let alone beliefs...). There's an element of denial, but I think the denial doesn't quite reach a conscious level.

What is your goal with this thread?

NYC seems to attract beautiful females like flies, yes.

Indeed. Like riding the subway when someone decides to take a piss at one end of the car, like what happened tonight on my commute home.

Agreed; fair enough.

No issues on my end; again, I find it entertaining. But if you mods find it irksome, as I just mentioned to dog, I'm probably partly responsible for that, so sorry for that if it's annoying. I do think dog is right that a thread like this becomes a sort of magnet.