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Cavacava's claim that most people believe Trump to be lying. — Michael

I was being facetious. I was trying to point out how ridiculous your comment was. Trying to suggest that Cavacava is wrong in saying that most people believe Trump to be lying because a few thousand people show up to his rallies? That's a non sequitur. — Michael

Which group is bigger? The group that go to Trump rallies, or the group that don't? — Michael

He creates all these great truths but they sound like lies to most people. — Cavacava

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I think that is for the most part the most common Christian view; but there are alternative interpretations. Have you heard of 'the Cosmic Christ' for example? As far as I understand the idea the Cosmic Christ is the divine-in-incarnation and is universally present in Creation. So, Jesus would have been one who fully realized the divine in himself; and we can all potentially realize the same. This understanding is incompatible with the doctrine of atonement. The idea of atonement makes no sense at all to me, although I acknowledge it is a predominant view among Christians. — Janus

Buddhists generally won't 'walk into bars' — Wayfarer

persistently rude bitch at work — Sapientia

Some Christians do not believe that Christ was God Incarnate — Janus

And not the person? — Thorongil

To decide what? — Thorongil

i demonstrate by example — The Great Whatever

no it can't. — The Great Whatever

You blame your opponents for just repeating themselves and saying no, but if what you say here is true, then you're doing just the same! — Agustino

no, you don't stop thinking, you go study whatever it is you want to know about. — The Great Whatever

philosophy has nothing to contribute to the special sciences. — The Great Whatever

philosophy doesn't help with that. — The Great Whatever

i've never seen a philosopher do that in an interesting way, so probably not. in general philosophy contributes little to nothing to human knowledge. — The Great Whatever

it confuses people, and then it can be used against itself to unwind that confusion. michael is experiencing such a confusion now, though whether he unwinds it is still to be seen. — The Great Whatever

not at all. for example, philosophy is not about the valency of elements, or the valency of verbs. that's what chemistry and linguistics are about. — The Great Whatever

philosophy roughly deals with those subjects of inquiry that take no special expertise. that is, philosophy deals with those problems you can solve just by talking about them, without any real need for specialized knowledge. — The Great Whatever

yes, all methodology is granted by fiat. philosophy fails to have a methodology, probably because it has no subject matter. — The Great Whatever

this is why philosophy is a joke - it's so lacking in method that 'nuh uh' is always a viable professional option. — The Great Whatever

But it is Clear that Aquinas didnt quite get the human psyche and how it really worked. — Beebert

But imagine Aquinas going out for a run. Imagine him actually doing anything that intensifies the Will and thereby proves the reality of things within us that he seems to have neglected. — Beebert

Plus, you have there Only two Christians basically to choose from from a list of philosophers. — Beebert

like humor, irony is also impossible to explain. — Wayfarer

I am probably fascist — Wayfarer

Of course. — Thorongil

Those links don't exactly help in settling the claim you made. I would want an official church document of some kind. — Thorongil

The morality of human acts depends on: — the object chosen; — the end in view or the intention; — the circumstances of the action. The object, the intention, and the circumstances make up the ‘sources,’ or constitutive elements, of the morality of human acts.

Those links don't exactly help in settling the claim you made. I would want an official church document of some kind. — Thorongil

In the East, we see that the great russian religous renaissance was inspired by mainly Dostoevsky and Solovyev, but also Kant and Nietzsche(and Plato to some extent). — Beebert

In his The Crisis of Western Philosophy: Against the Positivists, Solovyov discredited the positivists' rejection of Aristotle's essentialism, or philosophical realism. In Against the Postivists, he took the position of intuitive noetic comprehension, or insight.

Look at the greek fathers though. It was almost exclusively Platon that influenced them, not Aristotle. Aristotle came with Aquinas and others thanks to the arabs — Beebert

Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know, your Church does NOT adopt virtue ethics. Perhaps it does in practice, but it simply hasnt defined it. What you seem to talk about is the catholic church. — Beebert

Using your argument about the view of the churches doesnt prove anything? — Beebert

Is Dostoevsky 's view on morality Orthodox? — Beebert

No. Show me. — Thorongil

If good intentions lead one to hell, then do bad intentions lead one to heaven? If they were truly good, they couldn't lead one to hell. — Thorongil

To finish it, I would add that the fact that one can be mistaken about the good doesn't mean there isn't the objectively good for one to intend. — Thorongil