i think its possible that the idea of an individual self could be an illusion and instead we could all be a collective entity

look up ignosticism, i think you'll love its concept

"Let's figure out what we're even talking about first." — Terrapin Station

this is now ignosticism, and i think this is also a sensible view..it states that the word 'god' itself doesn't have an inherent meaning so we don't even know what exactly we're opposing or defending in the first place to get to a sensible argument

Why you'd have a belief about x if you think x's status is unknowable, I don't know. But apparently that describes some people. — Terrapin Station

this is what I've been questioning all along, why have a belief about something whose state you think is unknowable?

The first question tells us if you are theist or atheist (or a third type of person with strange grammar understanding that thinks they are better than the rest in some way). — ZhouBoTong

The 'third type of person' is supposed to be the agnostic fyi, and i don't think agnostics think they are better than the other folks, what they're simply stating is that; atheists can't be 100% certain that deities don't exist, how can they even prove that? On the other hand theists can't be so certain of the existence of deities either, since there hasn't been substantial evidence to prove so

I don't want to be divisive, but I kind of see agnosticism as just not quite going all the way with atheism. It's more common because it doesn't quite carry the same baggage. — thewonder

i don't think agnosticism is explicitly related to atheism as you insinuate...being agnostic, i honestly think is just questioning both camps. Can we know for sure that there aren't any deities out there, and if we can, how?on the other hand can we be so certain of the existence of god(s) out there without substantial proof?