answered this already and I'll answer again, but you're not going to respond with "That's not an explanation," right?

I apologize TS did you answer that I missed it?

(God does not exist.)

Accident: event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause.

Is that true or false?

1. God does not exist.

True or false or something else?

could say that you can't explain anything at all. All I'd need to do, with any explanation you offer, is say, "That's not (sufficient for) an explanation." If I decide to do that, what can you do about it?


Okay let's go back to this question then:

God does not exist?

You being an atheist is that true or false or something else?

But how could that be?

It's because I couldn't understand my conscienceness. But you're saying since you completely understand your consciousness, then you can prevent all accidents from occurring, is that what you are saying?

you remember what I said about this idea? If I offer something as an explanation that you're going to respond to with "that's not an explanation," then you're going to need to set forth your criteria for explanations.


And I told you in the OP that you would not be able to explain many things about human existence including consciousness, and you are demonstrating the fact you can't.

For example does music theory confer biological advantages?

I haven't the faintest idea why you'd see this as a mystery. You're not paying attention, and you do something careless as a result, like not stopping for a red light, as you suggested.

That makes no sense whatsoever. If I'm hard-wired to survive, you're suggesting my brain states willingly caused an accident by daydreaming.

Surely you're not suggesting that I daydream on purpose in order to kill myself right?

Yes. I answered this already.


I'm afraid you're far from explaining it. If I look at the color red and perceive a feeling about it, tell me about the nature of that feeling?

Explain why I have that feeling in physical terms?

He's certainly not going to claim that we have subconscious minds and that they cause accidents.

Then the question still remains unanswered:

1. Is human sentience physical ( explain the feeling we get looking at the color red and explained the brain states of Love phenomenon)?

2. Explain what happens when I'm not paying attention while driving a car having an accident and killing myself, explain that phenomenon?

I don't understand that question grammatically. Could you rewrite it?


Sure, explain your meaning of brain states?

Find me something from an academic/peer-reviewed source in cognitive science that claims that subconscious mental content causes accidents and you win the bet.


I'll make you a counteroffer, check with atheist Daniel Dennett in his book 'consciousness explained' and then we'll parse it.

In the meantime I'm learning that you really don't understand human consciousness do you?

It's a set of brain states. Brains are physical.
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I'm confused what are brain States consciousness and subconsciousness working together?

But that would be a contradiction no?

I already said, the fact that you weren't paying attention caused it.


But cognitive science says it was my subconscious are you refuting that?

Love - "an intense feeling of deep affection"

What is human sentience then, how is that physical?

In the scenario you're talking about, the simple fact that you're not paying much attention to what you're doing with respect to driving.

What can help you prevent it is to pay attention to it.


But what if I simply can't pay attention and I have an accident what caused that?

What in my consciousness caused that?

Another way you demonstrate it is via the fact that the notion of a nonphysical existent is incoherent. (I've already explained this many times.)


Gotcha, then describe to me the color red? Or better yet, describe the feeling of love?

Truth is never objective. Truth is a judgment we make--so a mental activity, about the relation of a proposition to something else. So by definition, it's subjective."

That would mean your belief that God doesn't exist is a subjective truth?

"Proof" is a red herring. Empirical claims are not provable, and proof in the context of logic and mathematics is simply a matter of whether something follows per the system we've set up.

I agree.

So how can you demonstrate that God doesn't exist then?

Through what method of logic?

"Proof" is a red herring. Empirical claims are not provable, and proof in the context of logic and mathematics is simply a matter of whether something follows per the system we've set up.

I agree.

So how can you demonstrate that God doesn't exist then?

Through what method of logic?

Subjective truth isn't objective, of course. That's a simple contradiction.


Interesting of course that begs many questions at the heart of atheism.

1. God does not exist.

Using your logic from your quote, is that an objective truth or subjective truth?

What "told you" to have an accident? Nothing "tells you" to have an accident. It's an accident.
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Forgive me for not following your logic. If I'm having an accident, what caused me to have that accident to kill myself?

Or let me say it in the reverse order. What can help me prevent the accident while I'm daydreaming driving a car?

Not a mental phenomenon, no. Unconscious brain functions are not mental phenomena.

But if I'm driving down the road daydreaming and kill myself in the process, what told me to do that?

Sure, I'd say that (if you're asking from a meta, truth-theory perspective).

I'm still confused. Are you saying you can get inside my head and objectively tell me whether my subjective truth is objective?

have a (justified, true) belief that god does not exist, yes. (And I told you this in a post above, by the way.)


Using consciousness, how can you prove that your belief is true?

And so is the subconscious a phenomenon?

Religions are "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods," "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, "

I'm confused. You are saying you have a belief in atheism. Does that mean you have a belief that God does not exist?

Secondly, you use the word personal. Are you saying you know the truth about subjective truths?

Daydreaming is a conscious mental phenomenon. So is awareness while driving, although simple awareness is not the same sort of mental phenomenon as imagining or fantasizing.


Interesting... I have many questions about your belief in consciousness, but I'll ask just one right now about phenomenon. What's the religious experience? Is that a phenomenon?

Does music theory confer biological survival value?

LOL

why should we entertain any of it as true when someone does it here in the forum?
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Inductive reasoning.

I don't buy that there is any subconscious mental phenomena.


When you're driving a car daydreaming and run a red light and crash into someone is that your conscious or subconscious?

Regarding atheism as a belief, it sounds like another religion, doesn't it?

Sure, volitional existence. As a goal you chose Atheism LoL

And I think it's called the subconscious LoL

That would be false because your goal is to seek the truth.

Therefore you have an inherent higher consciousness.

And that in part, is another reason why Atheism is untenable. No?

I'm saying that what you were saying is false due to our stream of consciousness.

Don't be afraid of yourself. Join the party. It's okay to be scared; if you're scared say you're scared !!!

Speaking of half-truths, actually you halfway joined the party already LOL!!

I'm not quite following that. Are you now thinking that a person can think about nothing at all and still exist?

That's what I'm left with if you say that humans have no goals.

Help me out there...

Why not? Couldn't one have a goal of Nilhilism?

"Can a phenomenon-in-potentia be said to exist and not to exist?"

What a fabulous question. I'm going to think about that for a while. The short answer could be that Being is both a noun and a verb

In the meantime consider the following. Time is required for Humans to exist thus a metaphorical bullet point:

1. During procreation a seed is planted.
2. Time is required for its development
3. Existence requires time
4. Time is existence.

What do you call a human being at conception other than a fetus?

Is it a person, half person, human being in the making... ?

Just a strange analogy using words and concepts...

Is that Nihilism?

Hey 180 don't be shy come join the party!

LOL

1. God does not exist.

True or false or something else?