God? What is this strange creature you refer to? That is in power? Do you really believe in a god that has ethics and that actually is like us only better? I thought the 18th century was over....

We don’t want to combat it. If we did it would be obvious.

We are not capable of altering our behaviour. We are captivated by the new, the interesting, the existential experience so to speak. We are explorers, innovators, creators, and when we are doing those things is when we as a species advances and shines. As individuals when we feel most alive. We cannot change.

The only way to deal with it is to create a cost effective way to reverse the damage we have done, are doing, and will do. Scrub carbon from the oceans and atmosphere. Remove toxins. Remove food sources that are compromised, or mitigate the problems. Basically we have to win the race, but we are not capable of stopping or reversing course.

Economically at some point it will make sense to put vast resources into the problem. But not now because the problems aren’t costing money. When they do then the calculation is that at some point solving the problem will save money. Or make money, if u will.... that is when things will start to happen. Not before.

The social protest is but a mere contradiction - we indulge and waste what we have and at the same time demand change to our own behaviour. Because we are not capable of effecting change, nor do we desire it.

It is a typical historical pattern that repeats itself. Every civilization comes to an end. Or at least the era comes to an end.

Wealth at the beginning is with those who produce it. The more mature an economy / civilization becomes the more wealth is concentrated with those that control the means of production. Eventually the society / economy falls apart because those that produce the wealth are not those who prosper.

Look at history.
Rome
Han dynasty in China.
Etc etc. Ad infinitum

It goes hand in hand with the phrase power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Everyone is susceptible, nobody is immune.

What we are experiencing is a long cycle that is near its end - in another hundred years or so maybe. The economy would have to completely collapse in order to effect change - which nobody wants. So we are along for the ride.

Perhaps if energy is virtually free there may be a way to make a peaceful transition.... where enough wealth is available that the concentration at the top is watered down a bit.... completely speculative. Probably there is a way to control those means as well.

The economy will see the rise of unions again, as part of the natural pattern (well it seems predictable, if not “natural”).

Short term the EU will default on its debts eventually (the countries in the EU). Then capital will hide in the USA for a while. Then when the US debt causes an inevitable default, to China. Then when China collapses who knows where? Maybe back to Europe of Africa for all we know.

And eventually when wealth, and it’s distribution is not defined by nation states easily, then world government and a chance to actual tax corporations where they make profits - which is the real cause of the debts after all. Maybe that is the new meta... again just wait a hundred years or so....

/peace. Sorry that was a bit of a rant....

Interesting where the standard stages of psychological grief/loss put hate:

Love something
Lose it
Hate that you lost it, or hate it
Justify why it happened
Depression over the loss
Accept what happened

Love something again...
Ad infinitum....

Most of the time we never complete the cycle, I assume.

In this context hate is an eventual natural result of love. And hate eventually leads again to love.

Or... qua the yin/yang: within each facticity exists its antithesis. Waiting to emerge.

The main question for me is are we taking abstractly about ideas here? Which seems the most natural to me.... or are we talking praxis?

If we stay in theoria then hate may be simply a state of patterns that are about to shift. Then the question of what brings it about is kind of silly.

If we want to talk about hate in the world... and how do we deal with it, and what are the causes of hate - and Do we embrace it and how do we deal with those consumed by it.... the answer is that some people get stuck in a moment and can’t get out of it (ok... old U2 song I know) - anyways people get stuck on something that they would naturally move on from.

Is it natural to go through hate? Yes. It isn’t natural to stay in that state.

Freedom of speech as an ideal can only be sound if it does not contradict itself. There are some expressions of freedom of speech that have consequences that will prevent further freedom of speech. Such as voicing the opinion - aka playing politics (defined as the relation between people) - that certain groups should not or do not deserve to be heard. This is a form of freedom of speech that in many cases encompasses what we would call hate speech.

In this manner we can consider that such expression of speech is not really freedom of speech, as it is self-limiting. Hate speech - if u agree that it’s aim is to prevent the equitable speech of another group or member of humanity - in its use prevents freedom of speech.

So hate speech cannot hide under the umbrella of freedom of speech - at least not with conversations of people who can actually think logically. It is by its very nature an attack on freedom of speech. It is a self contradiction and ergo false.

So the answer must be no. Hate speech is not a form of freedom of speech.... it is a form of the denial of freedom of speech. It cannot be though of as otherwise. But please reply if you think otherwise, it would be interesting to be proven wrong!