• Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank


    No no, they’re too busy defending a genocide. Oh I’m sorry, I mean murdering thousands of babies.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank


    That is what we imagine you looking like, incel. Well done. (Having a cartoon ready on the occasion that someone accurately describes you as an incel definitely shows you’re not one. Guess this happens a lot to you. )



    Truly amazing that a racist imbecile like this — and likely returned banned member — has lasted this long on this site.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    a 35 year old such as youLionino

    Hey thanks!

    Now run along little incel girl.
  • SCOTUS


    No big deal — doesn’t matter to me. The mods can merge the two if they want. I was just throwing it out there.
  • US Supreme Court (General Discussion)
    It really feels like they're gambling the interests of future generations on the selfishness of a few incredibly stubborn old people.Mr Bee

    Yes. And look what they did to Bernie— twice. They’d rather lose the election than give it to someone that isn’t part of the Obama-Clinton DNC machine.
  • US Supreme Court (General Discussion)
    With rulings coming soon, watch for the destruction of Chevron, the destruction of labor laws, the destruction of environmental regulations, and generally the destruction of freedom.

    But yeah, throwing away votes in protest back in 2016 was definitely worth the temporary feeling of moral righteousness.
  • SCOTUS


    If anything it should go in “Supreme Court (general discussion)” thread.
  • SCOTUS
    As you note, Trump has to be beaten democratically for it to matter. He's not going to be beaten with all these trials.Hanover

    True— but the Supreme Court knows very well what it’s doing. It shouldn’t have even been taken up.
  • It's Amazing That These People Are Still With Us


    I hope Willie lives another 15 years
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Anyway, leaving racist incels aside, this is interesting:

    Omar draws criticism for suggesting some Jewish students are ‘pro-genocide.’

    Fine to call any protest “antiemetic,” but being pro-genocide (which happens to be closer to the truth) is a bridge too far. Such consistency in the genocide apologist logic.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    looks foldable with one punch — besides being uglyLionino

    In that case, definitely keep your icon a skull. I hear the same is true of racist internet trolls.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank


    And racists like you make racist remarks.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank


    Another overtly racist remark. How surprising.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    As Anger Grows Over Gaza, Arab Leaders Crack Down on Protests

    It won’t do any good. People really dislike genocide, which is exactly what this is— all pathetic gaslighting by dullards notwithstanding.

    It will continue until the genocide stops.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    https://www.youtube.com/live/S2-Wu6JQzp4?si=-E7NVXRgeHW-6ryg

    Best to listen to someone who’s been right for the last 30 years.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    I seem to be the only one (here) mentioning/remembering the hostagestim wood

    How brave and exceptional. The only one! Wow! Great job!

    15,000 children dead…but yeah, good to keep emphasizing the hostages, many of which Israel has already killed. All with good intentions of course.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    10/7 was attempted genocide.BitconnectCarlos

    :lol:

    There is no genocideMoses

    There is.

    but there are modern day brown shirtsMoses

    There aren’t.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    The thugs that have murdered 15 thousand children or university protesters who’ve murdered 0 people? Which thugs are you referring to?Mikie

    So people who go around punching or burning babies aren't necessarily bad people, Israel is much worse after all.BitconnectCarlos

    So now the people burning babies— Israel— are the good guys, and carrying a flag is the true baby-burning.

    Living in opposite-land must be nice. I prefer the real world, but then I’m not a genocide apologist.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Maybe it was the thugs flying Hezbollah flagsBitconnectCarlos

    The thugs that have murdered 15 thousand children or university protesters who’ve murdered 0 people? Which thugs are you referring to?
  • You must assume a cause!
    Things don't pop up for no reasonBarkon

    Sometimes they do. Stop looking for certainty in human-made ideas like causality. The world is a messy place, and there are things we don’t understand and may never will.

    The story of the big bang is one story. Happens to be an empirically well-supported one currently, but will likely change in time. Don’t get too hung up on it.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    protesters are calling for violence and repeats of 10/7BitconnectCarlos

    What protesters?

    Israel’s defense minister was calling for genocide early on. Excused as just “knee-jerk remarks” right after October 7th. So that kind of rhetoric gets a pass— but a few students making remarks in reaction to genocide is a step too far.

    Always amazing to watch the selective outrage.
  • SCOTUS
    Why would they do that?RogueAI

    If you have to ask…
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank


    The war criminal doesn’t like the protests. What a shocker.

    They didn’t like Vietnam protests in the 60s either. Plenty of pro-war dullards defending the US invasion of Vietnam and subsequent atrocities inflicted on the Vietnamese people back then too.

    Funny to watch it happening again. And once again the students are correct and the dullards will be looked on very poorly in the future.
  • SCOTUS


    But even checks and balances— and any other principle, rule, or law — makes no difference if no one takes it seriously.
  • SCOTUS
    By prolonging deliberation they are dragging their feet and in effect obstructing justice.Fooloso4

    They’re deliberately dragging it out so that the trial is postponed until after the election.

    That’s all there is to it. It’s really that simple, and anyone who isn’t neck deep in political hobbyism can see it. The answer is obvious: no, he’s not above the law. They also moved quite quickly on the Colorado ballot case, so we know they’re capable when they see fit.

    Personally, I don’t care— it SHOULD be the people rejecting him. If we’re really so stupid as to elect this guy again, then what difference does a Supreme Court ruling really make?
  • Climate change denial
    The meat industry’s war on wildlife

    Your taxes fund an obscure government program that kills millions of wild animals to benefit Big Ag.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    ]Netanyahu Calls Student Protests Antisemitic and Says They Must Be Quelled

    War criminal and genocide leader calls anyone protesting the murder of thousands of women and children “antisemitic,” and wants to stifle free speech. Good luck.

    Love seeing these amazing people out there. Police pushback and media lies will only lead to more of them. History will judge them well.
  • Climate change denial


    Around the dam site, and on some fish. But compared to the environmental impact of oil production, it’s small indeed.
  • Climate change denial
    Three Places Changing Quickly to Fight Climate Change

    Uruguay, a nation of 3.4 million people wedged between Argentina and Brazil, generates nearly all its electricity from renewable sources. In 2008, the government set a goal of transforming the electric grid, which had come to depend on imported oil.

    The country had a lot of hydropower, but years of drought in the 1990s and 2000s slashed the dams’ output. Uruguay was forced to import oil instead, at volatile prices, and faced shortages and blackouts. Officials noted the increasing cost competitiveness of renewables, especially wind, and set out to build a local wind industry nearly from scratch.

    Between 2013 and 2018, wind generation grew sharply from almost nothing to about a quarter of Uruguay’s electricity mix. By the end of 2022, the most recent year data is available, Uruguay generated more than 90 percent of its power from renewables, with wind and solar growing even as hydropower declined.

    Often said that these smaller countries can’t compare to a leading polluter like the US. But it can compare to states— like NH, VT, MA, NC or SC, etc. Enough states do it, there will be a turning point. The question, as always, is how quickly.

    Should have started 30 years ago. Then there’d be room for more optimism. We’ve already shot past the Paris target of 1.5 however. That’s dunzo. There will be massive damage caused by this, and we may reach tipping points because of our delay.

    But this and other examples shows it can certainly be done. The people are there, the technology is there— the dying fossil fuel industry, their lobbyists, and their lackies in congress, still in denial. So given our anti-majoritarian system, short term thinking, and general science ignorance, stupidity will most likely put prevail.
  • RIP Daniel Dennett
    Dan Dennett. Sad to see him go.

    Fellow resident of my hometown, I remember he signed every book of his that the library had, with a little note saying “To the readers of Andover…”. I always liked that.

    Went to a lecture of his when I was a freshman, met him briefly in the hallway. Seemed like a kindly old man.

    I liked his take on religion — felt it was a better attitude than the others of the late 2000s, like Dawkins and Hitchens.

    This interview (below) with Bill Moyers always stood out to me as fairly reasonable. The rest of his thinking I never found terribly interesting.

    In any case— may he rest in peace. A real loss to the philosophy community— if there is one.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Israel is just another country on a long list of countries which have resorted to crimes against humanity in order to try and subdue an occupied population, and used their resistance as an excuse to do it.Tzeentch

    Absolutely.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Israel is ethnically cleansing the area, but doing so “carefully.” And with much better propaganda. Congratulations!

    So calling it genocide is just ridiculous. Can’t just look at the numbers dead and the starvation and the rubble. Pay attention to the intentions and carefulness.

    Reminds me of Iraq and Afghanistan indeed…apologists for their state’s war crimes often sound similar.
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    What’s even more telling is getting to know a poster by their repeated display of ignorance and genocide apologia. A little more disgusting than an emoji, in my view. And if you’re too stupid to see the context, that’s on you.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    make sure to compare the deaths of maybe 8 or 9000 civilians to the 11 million killed in the holocaustBitconnectCarlos

    :lol:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank


    Yeah, yeah…shouldn’t you be justifying genocide or something?
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Are you concerned about the rise of Islamophobia?BitconnectCarlos

    Like the kind I see on this thread? Yeah, very much.
  • TPF Quote Cabinet
    We’ll go down in history as the first society that wouldn’t save itself because it wasn’t cost-effective.

    — some say Kurt Vonnegut, but I’m not sure.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank


    I’m not concerned with right-wing propaganda, nor with those who believe it.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    How nice it is to see genocide apologists get so worked about anti-genocide protests across the US. College kids, young people generally, the protest votes during the primary, a small number of voices in congress, etc — they really are having an impact, for the first time in my lifetime have I seen a top-ranking senator — not to mention president — make the slightest suggestion that Israel is in the wrong.

    They, along with the rest of the world, can see through the bullshit of those who want to complicate something that’s not at all complicated: stop killing innocent people. You don’t like it done to you, then stop engaging in it yourself. End your genocide, and your illegal occupation, and your illegal settlements in the West Bank, stop blocking UN resolutions, stop the “mowings of the lawn,” and you’d easily have the moral high ground. Until then, expect more October 7ths.