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  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    @Brett I’m playing dumb.

    @Banno Apologize for dragging you into this.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Banno

    Aren’t Wittgensteinians able to sort out confusing language?
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett
    Maybe @Banno can help you.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett
    It was very wise of you to mention those countries. That’s why I wrote it there.

    Don’t overthink it. It was dumb on my part.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett
    There’s nothing to get, so don’t worry about it. *Im so random*
  • Wiser Words Have Never Been Spoken
    from countries like Africa or Asia. — Brett
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    from countries like Africa or Asia. — Brett
    Very interesting link (here).
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    I think its time to close this thread... @Baden
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    ↪Eugen
    Where's @Banno? My shift is over now. He needs to take over.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    panpsychism is for fags — Eugen
    We don't use that word here. I'm serious this time.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    ↪Isaac
    That's better!

    Let me help you: @Wayfarer
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    ↪Eugen
    I thought I could find a quote in an online article. I was wrong. You don't always win in life.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    ↪Isaac
    I'm not going through hours of YouTube material just to get a quote. The Rosenberg thing was more of a suggestion than anything. I didn't expect it to get all serious like this. And you're also acting like this is a super serious thread.

    I've learned my lesson now, I have to be extra serious around you, or else...
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    ↪Isaac
    He's all over YouTube. I saw him in moving naturalism forward, I saw him debate William Lane Craig.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    ↪Pop

    I have no idea how anyone can take Alex Rosenberg seriously. It's impossible to strawman someone who is made of straw. If @Isaac want's defend Rosenberg, that's fine. I'm out.

    And in case you were wondering: No, this isn't an attempt to be a formal argument. :roll:
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    ↪Isaac

    I had no idea what I was getting myself into. It's so hard to find quotes from Alex Rosenberg without buying his book. I scoured much of the internet.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    Rosenberg is a nihilist (and not just a moral nihilist).

    Nihilism is the view that there are there are no composite objects (i.e., objects with proper parts); there are only mereological simples (i.e., objects with no proper parts). The nihilist thus denies the existence of statues, ships, humans, and all other macroscopic material objects. SEP

    Our belief in a continuing identical self over a lifetime is an illusion. In praise of nihilism.

    No identity overtime means no consciousness over time.

    @Isaac Take what you want from this. I know it's not the smoking gun you were hoping for.
    Rosenberg may not outright deny consciousness, but he might as well.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    ↪Isaac
    I'm going on memory. I'll get back to you if I can find something.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    As this thread's failure to cite a single example — Isaac
    Alex Rosenberg. I remember that he held the view that only quarks and leptons exist.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    Quining Qualia
    So contrary to what seems obvious at first blush, there simply are no qualia at all (Last paragraph).
    @Wayfarer @Banno @Isaac
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    Bolton: U.S. should consider ‘very severe measures’ over reports of Russian bounties.

    I'm thinking of buying his book. :joke:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    I get to live in a country with the word's most insane president. Lucky me. :shade:
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    ↪ssu
    USA! USA! USA! USA! :party: :party: :party:

  • Book or Lecture Series Recommendations
    There are tons of different free philosophy courses online. (link)

    Edit: Mixed quality, I'm sure. I obviously didn't go through every one of them.
  • Book or Lecture Series Recommendations
    Open Yale Courses

    Death

    Edit: I also found this one interesting, but I don't really like his style.
  • Book or Lecture Series Recommendations
    John Searle has 3 lectures on YouTube:

    UC Berkeley lectures.

    Edit: I found them very interesting.
  • How come ''consciousness doesn't exist'' is so popular among philosophers and scientists today?
    ↪Kmaca
    :up: :up:
  • Book or Lecture Series Recommendations
    Edit: missed the "recommend" part

    There's an introduction to philosophy course on Coursera (link)

    It's starts june 29th and it's free to enroll.

    Edit: I personally never tried this course.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    This is getting boring... :yawn:
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    Interestingly some generations of elders go silent, like the men who returned from the war and said nothing. They feel they have nothing to pass on. — Brett
    Did they at least pass on their genes?

    I don’t think it’s so bad being asked to read them, but pointing them out helps. But the books are just a metaphor for knowledge passed on. What do we need from elders? — Brett
    We need their money more than anything else.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett

    Exactly! Why do we have to read these long and painful books when they already read them years ago?!
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett

    To read difficult long books and explain them to us in simple terms..
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett

    Worse.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett

    A nursing home would be much more humane, but yeah.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett
    I don't know why that is, perhaps they are bots.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett

    Nobody's got the guts. :cool:
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    I thought that was a noble effort, but philosophical education seems to me more likely to happen in a conversation in which it is relevant, rather than shuffled off into its own separate thread. — Pfhorrest
    The idea was that it prevented distractions in the original thread. Anybody can ask any question about any topic in philosophy in the educational thread without disturbing the flow of ordinary threads by interrupting them, and asking them for explanations.

    Also, there is already a Questions subforum. — Pfhorrest
    It's very linear there. You ask a specific question, you get a specific answer.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Pfhorrest
    Oh, well. At least I tried.
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Pfhorrest

    I tried making the technical stuff more accessible to everyone in my education philosophy thread, but it seems like a dud. :confused:
  • Is the forum a reflection of the world?
    ↪Brett
    They've got life experience and money. That's about it. :lol:
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