• Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    How about a rabbit that gives birth to a house full of people playing trivial pursuit where they're arguing over whether Sally already answered the pie piece Arts and Literature question but Kevin can't find his stapler to fasten his letters from back home that were unstamped.Hanover

    :roll:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Then sometimes they take to drinking and it can take a bad turn.Hanover

    There is nothing more absurd then an american trying to tell the rest of the world that they don't know how to drink or hold their liquor.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Fool yourself into thinking America offers you no protection. It really doesn't matter. They'll protect you anyway.Hanover

    Don't be an fool. American's "offering protection" is nothing but post-colonial pseudo-colonialism. You screwed every one of your Five Eyes partners with ECHELON.

    We need American protection like the grocery owner in Little Italy need the "insurance" offered by thugs.
  • Trade war effects on the global economy
    Having said that: what I would like to know is what is unfair of having no tariffs?ArguingWAristotleTiff

    Because the world is already unfair. Canadian dairy does not survive 6 months in an unregulated market shared with american products. As it is eminently unwise to not have basic productions of subsistence goods, it's better for us to be unfair to Americans then be reckless about our essential products and services.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Anyway, it is also relevant that those which are not beholden to the level of decorum of diplomatic officials allow themselves to voice their discontent in such farcical ways. And I very much doubt Carmen Yulin Cruiz lost any steam from her "NASTY" joke.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    I don't so much have his back as much as I see someone not doing the harm imagined and burping and farting at the most solemn events and really entertaining me to no end.Hanover

    Governance by Aristocrat humour...

    Fuck this shit. Americans deserve Trump and all the hate.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Thank you.
    I have simply spent so much time on /lit/ that I desensitized myself to trolling. I just call stupid when I see stupid, and sadly, that's not how one must act with Trumpers.
    The discipline you impose on me is sorely needed. :smile:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    This sycophantic worship of rich elites by the likes of raza I really don't get even though Zizek (seeing as Street brought him up) reckons it's Calvinism's fault.Baden

    Modernized Prosperity Gospel.

    The stuff is as crazy socipathic as it is widespread.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    No tax on essential food items.raza

    I might be very late to the party, but, as a rule, there are no taxes on subsistance items.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Why are you misquoting?raza

    Because you apparently have very little reading comprehension.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Bill Binney, former high ranking NSA official turned whistleblower: “Intelligence agencies are the Stasi of today”.raza

    Wut. "Intelligence agencies of today are the intelligence agencies of yesterday".

    Makes a whole lot of sense. :worry:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    talks about Trump and the Supreme Court pick, it sounds EXACTLY like Hannity describes it:Agustino

    You are aware of the massive conflict of interest Hannity is facing in this story? That he's the third secret client of Cohen?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Many are not their parentsArguingWAristotleTiff

    "Many"?Maw

    Which is absolutely unthinkable, right? I mean, you see a half-starved kid on the side of the road on your trek from El Salvador to the frontier, and by God, if you don't share at least 75% genetic material with it, that kid is toast. God forbid extended family or even neighbours do something as unAmerican as trying to help a kid they have no parental obligation toward. That's communism.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    "In every way, there is no place like space."

    Should probably also add it to the quote cabinet.
  • Trump's organ
    I'm not sure if there's anything to understand here. Ok, you like the fact that he speaks American? Whoopty-doo, so do many other Americans.Posty McPostface

    No no no. You simply lack the comprehension to comprehend Trump or those who comprehend their comprehension of Trump.

    Comprende?
  • Trump's organ
    that through linguistic analysis it's thought that Trump has early stage dementia.Posty McPostface

    Lol. "linguistic analysis". That's a really professional way to say he sounds like an idiot. :yum:
  • Trump's organ
    What are we to make of this?Banno

    Have Elton make a song of it?

    Let's all remember that Donald Trump speaks like the majority of Americans, according to his followers.
  • Bannings


    Eyeball bleeding is a serious condition and a single missed capital can send you into full hemorragia.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    would she have been subjected to such a volume of harsh criticism and name calling?FreeEmotion

    Well, yes. She was being called a pro-NWO murderer all the time during the elections, why would this have stopped with her getting the seat?

    I hope not, after all isn't it a crime to hate the President? A hate crime basically.FreeEmotion

    Huh. :brow:

    No. I don't remember a time where the POTUS was not hated by at least 25% of the US population. I mean, I was still a kid during the Bush father years, and he's pretty much the last one who tried to do more than just pay lip service to bipartisanship.

    When you say things like this, do you not have all the examples of places where even being slightly critical toward the powers can land you in criminal court? And these places, do they not seem to be radically worse then where you are right now?
  • A puzzle concerning identity - the incoherence of Gender
    Can one know what it is like to be a man? Or what it is like to be a woman? How, if one can have no more than one's own experiences?Banno

    I think it may have more to do with the inadequation of your experience with the expected experience that social pressure imposed on you.

    This is somewhat on point with my social life. One of my friend is transitioning into a women, and lately started giving advice to me and my group of friends on how to act around women, as if she had natural authority on the subject.

    It made for an akward conversation.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    You mean Comey?Michael

    Ah yes, sorry, I knew as I was writting that that something was wrong. But Mueller is still a Republican. Not much for a Statist Guru.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Yes. If by triggered, you mean, frustrated that somehow, claiming that Mueller (the man who most likely cost Clinton the throne, by the way) being the head of a Statist cult doesnt send you into deep shame at your intellectual inadequacies.

    How many more of your claims do you need properly debunked before you admit that whatever motivates you to post here, well, it isnt a search for a rational argument?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Mueller seems to be the current leader of a statist cult.raza

    What the hell are you on about???
  • Currently Reading
    I adore Lovecraft, outside of his casual racism that's thrown into his work. The Color Out of Space is my favorite.Maw

    Color Out of Space is pretty much the best horror story ever written. I always wondered if it would not be the earliest prototype of a zombie story.
  • Buxtabuddha...
    I feel like the prettiest girl at prom.Maw

    You are. :yikes:

    What we see here is confirmation bias. Buxte was low quality racist troll, but he was a pro-life low quality racist troll.

    That's all Augustino ever needed to give his endorsement.
  • The Politics of Outrage
    Asked more specifically about the content of the tapes and whether they contain only disparaging comments about women, Pruitt said, “No, very much a racist issue.” Pressed further on whether it was about African-Americans, Jewish people or all of the above,” Pruitt responded “yes” to all three.Baden

    Vice is trying to deal with the exec of the show to get the tapes released. I think Cornell mentioned something like 14 uses of the "n" word by Trump in a single recording.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    The actual processes at the border are the same now as they have been for years.raza

    An outright lie. The Trump administration changed the policy on January 25th 2018.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/white-house-framework-immigration-reform-border-security/
  • Morality of Immigration/Borders
    USA dealing with invaders lawfully is not.tom

    Invaders? The hell are you on about.

    And no, this is not lawful, as the Governor of New York explained in details. Besides violating the stated intent of the Flores decision, it also contravenes to the 1951 Refugee Act, which states that while countries may impose mouvement restrictions on asylum seekers for the aim of facilitating process, they cannot criminalize them, prosecute them, or even simply discourage them from seeking asylum.

    Trump set himself up for another legal takedown.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Bards dont sing about trade wars.

    They simply dont get the girls. And very often, they just dont go the way you thought they would. Before tnis current trade war, and if we omit the Chinese, which have been economically belligerent for a while now, the latest venture the US embarked on was against Brazil, in 2016.

    Yeah, shocker, guess most of you didnt know. I didnt either before yesterday.

    So, since "trade wars are easy", I guess we didnt hear about the Brazil-US conflict because the Americans must have wiped the floor with the Brazilians. Right?

    No. Turns out, trade wars arent necessarily easy. A trade war isnt a trade deal. Just because you can, in construction and real estate, for example, if you are much richer then your partners, just renege on your deal, or abuse the disproportion of power, doesnt mean you can do the same in a trade war. In a dematerialized world like ours, a simple signature from a government official, or even the threat of such a signature, can send vast economic backlash in distant countries. As such, the brazilian government floated the idea that they would simply stop all vetting processes for american pharmaceutical products. All holding patent requests from american pharmaceutical firms would be denied, and other countries companies would be allowed to pick up on them.

    That sent the pharma lobby in Washington, one of the biggest ones out there, completely berserk. And so the Brazilian-US war never really flared.

    This is what the Canadian government is now thinking about doing. And none, absolutely none of this, was necessary. This one is 100% on you, guys.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Kompromat is one of the oldest FSB tool. At the beginning, I thought too that there simply couldnt be any truth to the Russian connection story, that at most, it profited Putin enormously to both have Trump in the WH and giving the impression he had put him there. Even if there had never been any collusion, Putin still stood to win by even just making a show of trying to meddle in the US affairs.

    But the more everything goes, the more you have to accept that Trump is, one way or another, Putin's puppet. Directly or indirectly. Doesnt matter really, if the FSB has drawers full of pictures of Trump with russians ballerinas and bears, in the end, Trump has done absolutely everything Putin would have asked him to do anyway, had he anything sallacious on him. Assad, the G6+1, the trade wars, legitimizing the white nationalist base, shutting down trade in Asia, focusing solely on China and NK...
  • Morality of Immigration/Borders
    And yet you don't go down to the homeless shelter and bring as many home as will fit.Hanover

    Well, if they are at the shelter, then moving them into a slightly more comfortable spot isn't what's going to save their life.

    And you know this is a false equivalence, and it's fucking hypocritical.

    Also, aren't you Jewish? Don't you have a very vivid historical reason not to piss on the 1951 Refugee Act and the status of asylum seeker? Yeah... :worry:
  • Morality of Immigration/Borders
    Should someone be permitted to move into my house and sleep in my bed?Hanover

    Put it another way. If you could save someone's life, and the only thing you had to do for this would be to let them move into your house and permit them to sleep in your bed, what kind of fucking monster do you have to be to refuse???
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Why should the USA not be allowed to police its border?tom

    Daily reminder that the U.S., following the signing of the 1951 & 1967 UN Convention on Refugee status cannot legally refuse asylum seekers, nor even simply discourage it.

    http://www.unhcr.org/uk/protection/basic/3b66c2aa10/convention-protocol-relating-status-refugees.html
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Nope. The myth of dumb presidents isn't useful - except to the dumb presidents. He is the most ignorant man ever to be president.tim wood

    And the least stable. And the least diplomatic. And a proper condemnation of US society as degenerate.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Why was no one complaining when Obama separated children at the border?tom

    Perhaps because the kids weren't held in the U.S. for up to 2 month after their parents were deported?

    How many other brilliant questions like that can Trumpers conjure up?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Border crossing doesnt have to be any more dangerous than taking a hike. Crossing illegally into the US from where I am is a 74$ cab ride followed by a 45 minutes hike across some farmlands and woods. Unless some gung-ho border patrol idiot decides to gun me down, or hell, I come across some badgers, then there is no danger whatsoever.
  • Democracy is Dying
    Because as far as my studies in political theory and political science treat it, constitutional monarchies are absolutely capable of being democracies, and Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark and many other places are considered well-functioning democracies.angslan

    This.
  • What's the use of discussing philosophy without definitions?
    Assignment of meaning (to tree rings) by humans is pretty arbitrary from a tree's point of view.Pattern-chaser

    Is not tree not a temporal being?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    If someone is determined to come here illegally, the decent and safest thing would be to leave the child at home with a relative and send money back home.raza

    That's dangerously irresponsible. Someone with reasons to immigrate illegally should never leave his family back home to suffer in his place.

    In other words, if a LARGE group of people present themselves at one time, it overwhelms our ability to process anyone as we normally would.ArguingWAristotleTiff

    In which we justify our insensitivity to other people's suffering because of our bureaucratic inadequacies.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    The crimes within the illegal immigrant communities would blow your mind if they were only reported.ArguingWAristotleTiff

    So would the crimes committed within the regular citizenry.

    Anytime visibility barriers are erected, we give the occasion to crime to flourish. It has nothing to do with the status of the immigrants. I used to live in a quarter of the city populated mostly with Hassidic Jews. There were legitimate concerns about how such a closed community cared for their handicapped folks, and I saw more than once what would have constituted gross abuse.