With that said, given that we live in quite egalitarian times (more so than in the past, pace '60s), I think, that to uphold such an ethos, it is convoluted to indulge in such themes, @Brett?

It’s quite clear who he thinks it is. I may not think so, but he’s quite clear about who it is. — Brett

Well, then you can't treat his philosophy seriously?

I hope your being facetious. Under assault from who or what?

More of what? It's no secret that Peterson portrays males in some sort of decline with respect to their engendered archetypes of the past not self realizing.

So, this is a troublesome issue. As far as I know most virtue ethicists such as Noddings or Gilligan have no imperative for their voice to be heard over that of males. In fact, I suppose that such a thing would be detrimental to their cause.

Anyone more knowledgeable about female virtue ethicists care to comment on this?

Yeah, what do you think about that? It's my impression that people like Jordan Peterson enjoy their fame due to this sort of backdrop of personal improvement or self-help.

One enormous need is suggested by the inconvenient truth that the soon-to-be-born largest generation in history will in no way be able to recklessly consume like we have been. — Wayfarer

True, just following the topics on this forum, there's an incredible amount of care towards the environment and climate change. Those topics can go on in perpetuity.

And as a large part of our industrial-economic system encourages and relies on reckless consumption - then what can take its place? — Wayfarer

Yeah, the issue is still that no plausible alternative has been suggested as of yet. And, given that people are by nature, rather driven by self-interest, I don't think we'll see a slow-down in regards to consumption.

In fact, just the fact that today is Black Friday, we celebrate consumption. Isn't that rather scary?

“The characteristics that denote what constitutes a female”, who’s defining these characteristics and are they saying the characteristics are imposed or a constitutional part of being female? — Brett

Carol Gilligan, Nel Noddings, and other virtue ethicists? Just off the top of my head.

So’ virtual ethics’ applied to females; can you clarify? — Brett

Well, there's a sort of issue with that, in that it sounds like it were exclusive to females only. But, feminist ethics, is primarily concerned with the characteristics that denote what constitutes a female. With respect to males, I am not concerned about, although feminists rightly so have a lot to say about that.

I hope that makes better sense.

By ‘applied’ do you mean what’s expected of them, or who they are? — Brett

I wouldn't say what's expected from them. That sounds a bit fishy. As to who they are, it isn't a prescriptive norm that should be imposed on females. That sounds doubly fishy.

A revival. What ethics do you mean? Do you mean something that has drifted or got lost along the way? — Brett

Well, yes. It's no surprise that the field of philosophy has been dominated by males for the past X millenia. That's not to say that females are discriminated against; but, I've been watching from the sidelines of virtue ethics applied to females, such as ethics of care.

I don't really have anything to add. Thanks.

I guess my overarching question is how fundamental forces of the universe fit into the Buddhist metaphysical picture. — Weynon5x

Sir, @Wayfarer might have an answer to this question. I know that Buddhist metaphysics is some pretty deep and nuanced stuff.

If you do a search for "On Buddhism" on this website you'll find a thread where you might find this question touched on.

Cool. I wouldn't necessarily try and obtain CBD from smoking it, although the bioavailability of CBD is much higher that route, yet with a shorter half life.

There are plenty of CBD oils available for personal use.

Anyway, good luck!

:grin:

It is aesthetically pleasing to the soul.

Given my limited understanding of THC and autism, I do know that CBD and autism go wonderfully well together.

The takeaway message of autism is that (again take this with a grain of salt), the brain of people with autism is overactive due to some kind of excess in glutamate activity. CBD is often used by parents to manage autistic tendencies. I can provide you with a good Google search query to expand your knowledge.

Try: (Cannabidiol and autism "ncbi")

Low power study with 18 participants:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6834767/

BTW I hate authority. It tends to be dumb as a pile of bricks. — ovdtogt

Yeah... It can be, but, it's kind of necessary, don't you think?

If you are reasonably content with your life you have no need for any kind of 'religion'. — ovdtogt

I think as content as humanly possible. I'm relatively a young adult, but after having gone through ups and downs in my life I try and manage my desires as much as possible and within some reasonable means to allow me to live in a state of some sense of stability.

Besides it's easier on the pocket, and I'm a pretty lazy bloke.

I just wallow around. There's an element to Buddhist thought that at once I admire and at the same time my whimsically wallowing nature won't allow me to take too seriously.

It's not a way of life for the faint hearted, and unless briefed or groomed from a young age it seems to me very hard to actually adopt.

Furthermore, there's no real authority on Buddhism apart from the Tibetan flavor, which can drive us Westerners mad. We like authority.

Cool. I like Buddhism a lot; but, as a Westerner I struggle with the sheer elegance that is Buddhist thought in practice. It requires some guidance to implement, I suppose.

Hmm, so you have no favorite philosopher?

This forum has payed handsome dividends in terms of alleviating my boredom.

Who is your favorite philosopher?

Wow, congratulations then! I guess whereof one cannot speak I shall remain silent.

Once I realized this trap I was in I decided to return to Holland where at least I felt physically safe. — ovdtogt

Yes, I'm somewhat lost here. Are you currently in Holland or in New Zealand?

I don't know if I would even be able to decide between the two of I had the money to settle in either one of them. Haha.

Depression causes loneliness. — ovdtogt

Yes, I think it goes in a loop with the two.

How has your social life been or any relationships if I may be so bold?

You seem confident, assertive, and know what you want. So, I think in the very least you have achieved some stability in your life, which would be reinforced by finding perhaps a significant other(?)

Perhaps the most important question, is... do you feel safe and content that you have realized your plan to be back in your home country?

I don't see the connection with depression here. Is it something that sets in once you establish yourself? I mean it either takes a lot of motivation to move around the world and work and keep on moving, which was driven by fear, which I am unsure of, or anxiety.

Are you very anxious?

Hegel based his idea of Rights upon this notion. Marx used Hegel's description to try and reverse the logic of it.
Maybe neither thinker understood what is involved with the idea. — Valentinus

Do go on... I'm having a hard time connecting the dots here.

Live in the Absence of Fear. — ovdtogt

So, the logical progression, what we're you running away from by all this travel, and discontentment with staying in one place for a while?

But did he say anything to disparage those with addictions, etc.? Just curious why you suggest that there's some element of hypocrisy here. — Michael

I'm not really well-read in Jordan Peterson, although I do plan on buying his 12 Rules, soon. I don't believe he spoke badly about addicts, nor do I feel any urge to defend a poor statement made, which I redact.

Though, I suppose, you might be nitpicking, as I elaborated on why I posted this in my second post, and my puzzlement with his use of a high dependency forming drug such as benzodiazapines.

From personal experience? I have gone through periods of depression and anxiety that really have no correlation with my personal cannabis use at the time, exempting the fact that I generally use cannabis more when I am suffering from extreme anxiety or depression. — Grre

You should really look into cannabidiol for this purpose. The research is really solid, specifically for anxiety and depression. Also, lavender extract is potent stuff. I believe diffusing it into the air is more satisfying and enhances effectiveness. Otherwise, Silexan in a German-made formulation of lavender extract that has been put through testing mostly for anxiety and depression.

Now I wallow to sleep though my body keeps on telling me that night is day and day is night. Ahh.

Yeah... So, much disinformation has been legitimized by funding from the government that you always have to read the conflict of interest stub at the end of each paper.

Anandamide, known in Hindu scripture or deriving from it as the molecule of bliss makes otherwise motivated and go-getters somewhat apathetic, although I think the scientific cause isn't related to the complex effects on CB1 receptors in the VTA and striatum which colocalize with the dopamine reward pathways.

My main focus in college was trying to deal with my ADHD tendencies, and it's pretty much an ideal non-tolerance forming drug for this purpose.

You might want to check out the synergistic effects of caffeine and THC, which is amazing! God I wish I was back in college and didn't self destruct by altering my neurochemistry too much...

Well, he is a psychologist that specializes in addiction, if I'm not mistaken, so it would be strange if he didn't talk about those issues?

There are so many studies out there and conflicting interests in regards to THC effects in the brain. Now, I do think that chronic smokers of cannabis suffer from avolition and decreased productivity, in otherwise healthy adults. I also do believe that people with a genetic predisposition towards psychiatric disorders like schizophrenia and psychotic disorders should not be puffing on marijuana, as there's something like a 3-fold jump in developing said disorders. Strangely enough I've also read reports about cognitive enhancing effects of small doses of THC on cognitive function in already schizophrenics.

As a matter of authority at the moment Israel is pretty much the authority on cannabis science.

What do you think?

Proud of the United States for this. — Grre

Yeah, I suppose leave it to the States to further the cause if people want it legalized. Ultimately I want to drive to my local Shell station where I buy my cigs and instead substitute that with some high CBD cigarettes.

Unfortunately I can't really tolerate THC. Paranoia and all that...

Personally I would steer well clear of any psycho active drugs, but as a wise man once said (well sang actually) " whatever gets you through the night/your life it's all right'. — A Seagull

Yeah, there's a sort of stigma associated in workplaces and elsewhere towards psychoactive compounds like antidepressants, though this stigma is being lessened by the sheer amount of people who need these medications. As if the person were a misperceived potential liability to the company in terms of job performance, and such.

Anyway, I haven't paid too much attention to Peterson and think the guy is a brilliant psychologist.

Here's his take on antidepressants:

@ArguingWAristotleTiff, what are your thoughts about the MORE Act? Progress or should we go all out and demand legalization instead of decriminalization?

A wallowsome issue... But progress in being made in Mexico and the US with the MORE Act.

Yay!

*think think* — Waya

And eat. I like to eat... :)