This kind of confusion - thinking that squarely philosophical questions are and have been answered by scientists - is, needless to say, rife. — Bartricks

You sound very young. You have to understand people of many philosophies on this sight see science as the only way to answer any question on this site. Believe it or not various mathematical fields can be applied to any field of study including philosophy. Your favorite ice cream could probably be quantified through a systems analysis and design approach.

No I am not because those are not theses about what time is, but about 'behaviour'.

For instance, a theory - no matter how complex - about how someone behaves, is not a theory about what a person is. — Bartricks

Thats actually not true. You can claim a very weak connection between any two entities or concepts and in some case a strong connection.

You might be right that there is almost no connection between special relativity and what time is but it is doubtful.

On a different note, i don't believe time travel would be possible unless there was someone who over sees what happened in the past. Time as a substance is a concept which basically says we observe objects and particles move. Since the past is forgotten as soon as it happens, someone would have to be responsible for recording it in exact detail in order to replicate it.

I believe time is understood and measured by the movement of particles. Since matter is limited by speed C (max speed C) and the summation of vectors probably plays a role (x + y + z cant exceed C) in why clocks tell time depending on how close to speed C they are traveling in a given direction, time is relative. This is one of many explanations of special relativity.

yeah i pretty much agree with the OP. Are you familiar with special relativity as well as vector analysis and Newtonian physics? I believe to understand special relativity you have to understand vectors and also Newtonian physics.

Thanks for the post.

time is not a substance. It is more so a concept used to help us make better decisions. As far it is is known there is no absolute measurement of time.

why would the vacuum disapear into the past. The way we view the past is a product of the particle positions in our brain. The past can only be the present (time travel) when all people have there brains shifted to view the past a certain way (particle positions). The past as viewed by us is an illusion that is altered by the particle positions in our brains. If someone operated on your brain your view of the past would change. Time is nothing more than an iteration of events and can only be interpreted by a flawed brain. Time is not a substance but nothing more than a concept.

Are you familiar with special relativity?

Time isn't a substance but can only be observed by the movement of particles. If nothing moves then it might possibly seem like lots of time is passing (your brain has moving particles) but in fact no time at all is passing.

Ofcourse particles are moving inside your brain so time is passing but since the speed of light never exceeds C this plays into the fact that "time is relative". I could give you my explanation of special relativity but you are probably better off looking elsewhere on this forum for an explanation of special relativity.

My explanation is in short the X vector + the Y vector + the Z vector of any given particle can never exceed C (the speed of light).

For example if X approaches C, Y and Z will approach 0

A clock under these conditions would be drastically effected in its ability to tell time

To understand this you at the very least must understand Vectors and also to some extent Newtonian (somewhat archaic) physics.

if nothing whatsoever moves then there is no passage of time. Special Relativtiy backs this up. Time is measured completely by the movement of particles and/or objects. If nothing moves it may seem like an "eternity" but in fact no time has passed. "Time is relative".

Photons are made up of particles.

oh ok now i see what you are saying. I've heard that prior to the big bang particles were line up similar to the way a magnet has some of its particles lined up for lack of a better example.

the difference between blue and purple is frequency. Your eye balls a radar system that can decipher frequencies. How would light not escape the system if it is surrounded by a vaccuum?

perhaps

It is only once we have become God that will we understand God — ovdtogt

What is anti time? I thought time could only be measured by the movement of particles. Even particles move in the opposite direction, time is still only measured by the movement of particles. Since the speed of light is constant or so they say, this makes time relative. (special relativity)

only time will tell. I doubt you are correct. Why wouldn't that light escape the area that had the homogenous state. When light is released into a vaccuum it will probably head out of the original space quite possibly perpetually.

You can't have waves without time and frequency. Frequency is a function of time

waves and particles are essentially one and the same. Your probably a arm chair quarterback.

Time is measured by the movement of objects or particles. If no particles or ligh waves are moving then there is no time.

When something changes color there are moving parts. Colors are produced by different wavelengths of light. Visible light is above Infrared and below Ultra Violet.

Christians believe Yahweh is Jesus Christ. If he doesn't exist then what difference does it make if Christians are misrepresenting him. Noah Harrari believes human's rise to dominance is based on us believing in fictions that enable us to have millions work together instead of just 200 Apes. Apes work together in groups of less than 200. Noah says the structure of an ant colony is very fragile even though they work together in groups of 1000s.

I believe there is a substantial chance my chosen religion is the correct religion.

Sometimes i think we all share the same collective conscious. Your consciousness is a subset and so is mine. We are held responsible to some extent for how we carry ourselves out in terms of how we view the world. Perhaps the universe in its entirety is the whole set of all consciousness. I understand this is a common concept in eastern philosophy.

Ofcourse this is all speculation.

Noah Harrari said automation would end alot of jobs. Either people embrace drastically reduced zoning laws, sub-blue laws and various other ways to help the poor without imposing on the tax payer or
we approach it from a socialist perspective and have universal basic income.

Automation started with the industrial revolution and its only gotten more intense.

I agree with this sort of approach and from a view of viewing a notion from multiple levels i definitely agree. Not sure i phrased that very well.

In my opinion space and land are key issues in keeping a large populace happy. Hypothetically if the world's population reached 1000 Trillion and all people lived in 1 mile high sky scrapers and food was grown through hydroponics and video games were how we experienced nature. To keep with a free market, i would say that enslaving older children (13 to 17) to build these large sky scrapers and have adults supervise the construction, i think that would adhere to a free market. I do not see the temporary enslavement of children as opposition to a free market. Children's labor are a commodity that can be traded by society. As long as the parents consent to their children being enslaved to society for a set period i do not see that as in opposition to a free market. Children being forced to work is not slavery in the traditional sense. When a person reaches 18 I think everything changes. Chick fil a likes to hire 14 year olds because teaching a 14 year old a modern cash register is extremely straight forward. An 18 year old and a 35 year old has a much higher learning curve even despite video game usage among these people.

Actually some people say a certain hero from a particular religion had the correct dna and lived in a world that was corrupt. He/She obeyed every axiom he was supposed (100s of axioms over many decades). His followers however all had sub optimal or bad dna. Not sure how it ended for his followers and converts in terms of their dna.

I can understand why you would say that. At this point in time i don't feel like explaining myself. I guess i wouldn't consider all forms of Nomianism good but i believe people who promote anti nomianism, their ideas should be carefully scrutinized.

Fascinating. I would also argue to believe you have free will in the traditional sense leads to an increase in depression. Depression is not the path of least resistence. I would argue an animals ability to understand abstract concepts like law and money will lead to that animal to have deep and serious depression. Once again not the path of least resistence.

Thanks for this post. Once again very fascinating.

Probably not, but happiness is simply not wishing you were dead on a daily basis (not a hard and fast rule but fairly close to the truth). Many Pastors will for instance say don't have pride but pride is a spectrum and most Pastors have some pride.

Many statisticians would tell you that statistics is more of a tool to aid in making better decisions. Statistics is far from an exact science. I use a statistical approach to alot of issues but since i believe in scientific determinism, on many levels much of what happens to me in the future is well out of my control.

i doubt that. I think many people assume they are open minded when in fact they are heavily influenced by hollywood and popular media. I know this is a cliche but novels are better than movies simply because they go into detail why an antagonist or protagonist did this or that or thought this or that. I actually don't read novels or really watch movies but i do read alot of non fiction. Another problem with hollywood is the "disney ugly duckling effect". Many people assume a person is ugly when in fact the director did what was done in the Disney's ugly duckling. The protagonist was cute and the pretty ducklings were physically uglier than the protagonist (ugly duckling). I know many people hate to hear this but ugly germans are very often used in hollywood as antagonists. And yes i know that there are pretty germans.

If you view a particular field of study as a system, you can use systems analysis and design principles to break each phrase and notion down into many some what discrete mathematical equations and even lines on a graph. If given enough time you can turn any field of study into a math problem.

Are you familiar with Hammurabi? He mostly combined prior laws but did make new laws. I'm not sure they were as dumb as people assume. He is dated to around 1770BC. Much of the lack of the sophisticated mathematics was due to a lack of automation. Automation can in some cases cause more problems then it solves. I would argue the embracing of mathematics is the corner stone of intellectual thought.

i mispelled illusion as allusion.

I agree however i would like to note that just because something is an allusion does not make it completely useless. If I plan to go to walmart for low prices (walmart usually has low prices), it just might so happen i will be mowed down by a serial killer. Probability is used to increase a persons chances of making the right decision. We all will likely make bad decisions the longer we live.

I do believe we were created but it should be noted if you roll a million sided die one million times trying to roll a 566 you will almost definitely roll a 566. This was pointed out in the book "a brief history of time" by Stephen Hawkings.

Through a belief in God people accepted an objective reality, even though they did not, or could not, separate subjectivity from objectivity, or were even aware that the world could be looked at in that way. To deny God was to tear away the security of a greater power that acted on the world and guided us. — Brett

Why do you say they could not separate subjectivity from objectivity. That is an assumption on your part and partly based on Hollywood and liberal betrayal of Medieval people. Isaac Newton is the most influentual contributor to modern Mechanical Engineering. Many people think Modern Mechanical Engineering is based on later developments but in fact most modern mechanical devices are produced using Newtonian Physics. Even modern computing can be entirely built using 19th century equations and very often they are.

Isaac Newton was a christian and Medieval people were alot smarter and more open minded then many people are today.

most republicans are centrists even if they claim not to be. I don't like most Republicans because they typically blame the problem of the poor on not working hard enough. I don't expect you scroll up through this particular forum topic but i noted solutions elsewhere on the internet that adhere to a completely free market.

its an armchair observation. Sex and the heart are in fact closely linked. Drugs and the heart are closely linked.

I'm not a big fan of the Kabbalah. I would rather not elaborate. No offense but you are probably better off looking it up yourself. Orthodox Jews don't recognize the Kabbalah.

I'm fairly familiar with the story of Joseph. I was not aware he had a book.

Assuming there was a creature or "living" entity from the beginning. A certain holy book has an original creature/entity call him self "I am". I think the ramifications of this name is after a long series of iteration of events this entity just made a compromise with himself and just name himself "I am" basically because there was no point in beating a dead horse. His origins according to himself were to hard to define. In "a brief history of time" this issue is addressed by the author when an old lady says the earth rests on an infinite number of turtles. Stephen Hawkings said the old lady isn't entirely crazy in suggesting a notion that follow with that sort of thinking.

First i would like to address that i see the universe a very large billiards table.

Second I believe we made our decisions 10 billion years ago (or some would say 10000 or whatever years ago)

When the events play out (yesterday, today and tommorow) those decisions were actually made 10 billion years ago.

Our actions and all the particles that make us up are 100% predictable by this supposed god.

God or the gods create million of sub optimal people that interact with millions of other sub optimal people. The primary goal is for great decisions to be made. The secondary goal is stated in a particular holy book which i will not name due to site restrictions.

The primary goal is obviously not met given the parts in the system were intended to be sub optimal

The secondary goal is supposedly reached or will be reached.

Even though we are like Babies and our actions are extremely predictable we still do have the freedom to act according to our willingness to follow suit with our personalities and/or our desired convictions

Once again we are 100% predictable.

Its like playing chess against a 5 year old.

Without quoting a particular holy book it is unlikely you will be able to use a holy book to convince this is not in accordance with a holy book.

You could possibly use science to convince me that scientific determinism but that is unlikely due to the fact that my logic circuit dictate to me that scientific determinism is completely rational.

A very powerful description of how the powerful subvert the true meaning of social reform can be read in the book 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell. — ovdtogt

Animal Farm was written prior to the automation and globalization on the scale that we have it in our modern age. I agree the book Animal Farm has many important things to consider but I feel the R.I.N.O as well as the Liberal Elite very often summarize the problem with the poor as "they don't work hard enough".

If you can break a language down into 10s of thousands of aspects or what i would like to call variables you approach a threshold of accuracy in comparing how two different phrases relate to each other. Whether they are from two different languages or the same language this is true. In calculus there is the concept of the asymptote. Absolute truth is like trying to reach the asymptote but as you increase effort you very often see little or insignificant gain in getting there. The absolute truth probably exists but it is extremely tedious to get there. I see this as the concept of spending dollars to save pennies.

I agree. Most Catholics I have spoken to truly despise the words and actions of the current pope. This thread was a great topic but in heart I just don't see Catholicism as a preacher of Socialism considering the amount of individualistic freedom the Bible preaches. — Reverie

I see the current Pope as a duplicit man. I'm forbidden by forum rules to go into certain aspects of the current Pope. "Am i my brother's keeper?".

Many zoning laws are actually in opposition to a free market and the funny thing is someone who was truly fiscally conservative would see them for what they really are.