• Ethics and Esthetics
    Thank you, everyone, for your advice, thoughts, words, references, etc.

    This has given me a lot of information, and I will now spend time reflecting on this.

    This was exactly what I was looking for. I do not know how this will evolve into a proposal, but it will.

    (And even though we got off on the wrong foot, Tim, you gave me valuable advice.)
  • Ethics and Esthetics


    OK, now that is exactly the point and what I am trying to understand.

    First, on one level: did Aristotle address this? (Yes, I am aware that some dismiss him, and there are others, but did he?)

    Second, would it be better to just encourage engineers to appreciate beauty and, in the process, hope/expect, they would act in a good way?

    Again, I am NOT a philosopher....

    But your comment made the point: "Does beauty run alongside the good? Is the good the ethical? The bad unethical? By what criteria?"

    I would love an elaboration on that, and maybe which philosopher to reference so that I can look it up, later. Right now, I just need grasp on the issue. Right now, I think we are failing to teach engineers, ethics. Or, to put it another way, the current classes amount to discussions at the level of "What would Jesus do?" And I don't think that is working.

    (If you do respond, I am off the net. I live in Europe now and am going to bed. Later.)
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    Tim,

    I am aware of what others are doing and I do not intend to trivialize ethics. I am only focused on whether a study in esthetics would do a better job, e.g: if people understood (experienced, studied, etc.) beauty (set aside the fact that such an issue could be subjective), they would be more inclined to act ethically (even though that coudl be subjective, too).

    And please do not begin with "really." That sounds dismissive and sarcastic and makes me want to delte the post and go away. I want to understand how to improve the ethical training of engineers, beyond what I see currently done (which, to me, does not seem to be working)