• Metaphysician Undercover
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    Like I said, the ties with the CIA, MI6 and Mossad are clear.Tzeentch

    Let me tell you something about Epstein. Everything published about him which is "clear", is what he wanted the public to know. What he was really doing, his intentions, he obscured and kept secret. There are two sides to him, the public presentation, and the private, what he was actually doing. And, he was a master at secrecy. That's why he did what he did, so well.
  • Tzeentch
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    A bit rich coming from a person who jumped at the first opportunity to pin it on the Russians, don't you think?

    And what a convenient way to muddy the waters: everything that's clear is in fact suspect! It has a nice Orwellian ring to it.

    Anyway, you believe what you want to believe buddy.
  • Punshhh
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    It is well known that the CIA, MI6 and Mossad do the same. Your point?
    My point is that Russia had become a friend, you know, even Putin was asking to join NATO at one point. The spies let their guard down. Meanwhile Putin was planning full scale hybrid war and funding his Oligarchs to hob nob and make friends with influential people in the West. Ripe for the picking. By this point Russia was Putin, Putin was Russia. On the other side, the CIA wasn’t the U.S., the U.S. and Europe particularly the Germans and the British had become complacent.

    And the US just so happened to be at the absolute peak of its power, while Russia was at its low point.
    Where were the U.S. and the U.K., why weren’t they infiltrating Russia, getting ready for hybrid warfare? They were asleep at the wheel.

    The Americans are the good guys after all!
    Straw.
  • Tzeentch
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    I don't mind interacting with people's original takes, but you're just making shit up on the spot and evidently know very little about geopolitics.
  • NOS4A2
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    The deep state’s political hits against DNI Gabbard have returned, which indicates to me that she’s directly over the target.

    Classified Whistleblower Complaint About Tulsi Gabbard Stalls Within Her Agency

    (Note: poisoning the well is the point—buried deep in the article is that the whistleblower complaint was deemed “not credible” by the Inspector General of both the Biden and Trump admins)

    Recent news about her investigating the 2020 election in Georgia and Puerto Rico hints at what the possible target may be.
  • Mikie
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    Just picture yourself still believing that the 2020 election was stolen (now whittled down to the last hope: maybe something happened in Georgia!). Imagine it. Then have someone thump your head with a stone.
  • Punshhh
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    Ooh ooh, I must have hit a nerve.
  • Tzeentch
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    No clue where you got that idea. I just can't be arsed to educate you. :lol:
  • Punshhh
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    I’m aware of your geopolitics, but this is not really a geopolitical story, it’s more a spy and espionage novel. Now who is the evil mastermind in this story? Can you think of any names that fit the bill.
  • Tzeentch
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    Now who is the evil mastermind in this story? Can you think of any names that fit the bill.Punshhh

    Genuinely, I have no idea. Epstein was obviously a fixer of some kind for very powerful interests. He called himself a representative of the Rothschilds, and Arianne de Rothschild was directly involved with him.

    But the truth is that what has come to the surface is probably only the tip of the iceberg. If whoever is behind this managed to keep this scheme under the rug for ~50 years, there's no telling how deep this thing goes.

    Rumors of powerful people involved with human trafficking and pedophile networks have circulated in Europe for decades as well.

    My guess is that Epstein wasn't unique, just the one that got caught. Again: tip of the iceberg.
  • Questioner
    496
    watch the brief (about one-minute) video Trump posted to his official social media account

    It ends with the obscenely racist image of the Obamas as monkeys

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116021857490657707

    Reactions to it on Insta -


    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUZ-1ONDpE8/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUaHNyfDkDs/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
  • Christoffer
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    Obvious racist is obvious.

    As I've been saying before, I don't think the problem is Trump, just like the problem isn't the racists. It's the people who allow the racists and Trump to reach power that is the problem.

    Society will always have fringe people who become broken and hurt society. And it's the job of society to make sure that these fringe people do not reach power and influence because it can skew society towards a place which doesn't really reflect the empathic nature of regular people, and instead skew them towards their own fringe ideas.

    Humans, as they grow up, constantly have an internal battle between these fringe ideas and the more sane values which makes them a functional part of the collective of society. But if society have been pushing the skewed ideals into cultural norms, then it will enforce these skewed ideas within people maturing.

    The job of society is to make sure this doesn't happen. And this is why the US is an immature toddler as a whole. It was always founded on immature ideals that it never grew out of.

    While other societies mature, the intelligent people will take note of it and learn from other's mistakes or success. Steal ideas to create a better society without having to go through blood first.

    The US has never been good at this because it was founded by a fundamental rejection of the rest of the world. A place to go to if you were sick of were you were.

    But this has now come back to bite the US in the ass. While other more matured nations in the world found stability, the US just rejected their ideas and hugged the US flag like a scared children hugging its parent.

    So, don't blame Trump for being a racist, disgusting excrement of US politics and business, he's just the symptom of a culture that hasn't matured enough to make necessary changes to its fundamental ideas about how society should function.
  • Christoffer
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    The only power that the US has had is that it has always functioned as a societal manifestation of trade and the market. It's been a hub for business, and as such it has made the dollar into the world reserve currency and English into the main language spoken everywhere. It's functioned as a world market place, a bazaar, with screaming store owners and shady deals.

    But you cannot build society in a mall, bazaar or market place. People have nowhere to live in there, there's no actual functions for living standards. Everyone tries to fit their lives in between the stores and commerce, but the ones who take up the most space are the ones who are good at selling and trading. Those who are businessmen. They get all the space they need, they get to roam that landscape.

    The US is a mall and Trump is the guy swirling the sign that screams of good deals, while the store owners try to hide the working staff who cries in the break room.

    That is the US condition.
  • Questioner
    496
    I don't think the problem is TrumpChristoffer

    I understand where you're coming from, but I'm not quite prepared to relieve the autocrat (and his enablers) of accountability. The damage happening in the US does not happen without Trump.

    Leadership matters, and whether that leadership seeks to unite or divide, and whether that leadership puts his own self-serving needs or those of the country first.
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