• Ciceronianus
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    Surely a pledge to abide by the rules of the contest ought to be a basic minimum entry requirement. Plain common sense, I would have thought.Wayfarer

    Yes. But we're dealing with a person who won't honor a pledge in any case, and won't be expected to by those who support him.
  • Paine
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    The Giuliana defamation case peels off layers of the onion
  • wonderer1
    2.2k


    ...Howell wrote in a 57-page opinion ruling.

    “Donning a cloak of victimization may play well on a public stage to certain audiences, but in a court of law, , this performance has served only to subvert the normal process of discovery in a straightforward defamation case, with the concomitant necessity of repeated court intervention."

    I hope we will be hearing a lot more such statements from the bench.
  • Paine
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    Which brings into focus what is a matter of law versus an appeal to public opinion.
  • Hailey
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    Yes, he delivered in my filtered view. But again, I just occasionally read or watch something about American politics so my perception about his accomplishments come from very limited sources such as the economic statistics referenced in his interviews or some videos in comparison to Biden's.
  • praxis
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    Yes, he delivered in my filtered view.Hailey

    Hilarious, I didn’t know Chinese biophysicists were so funny. :lol:
  • Hailey
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    Hilarious, I didn’t know Chinese biophysicists were so funny.praxis

    I'll take it as a well-intentioned compliment. BTW, I myself is not a biophysicst. It's just the name of a broad field.
  • praxis
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    BTW, I myself is not a biophysicst. It's just the name of a broad field.Hailey

    Of course.
  • Benkei
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    What do you think it means that Trump is made fun of by a large majority as a complete idiot and liar in the European Union when you contrast that with your own views? To what extent are your views a representation of the average Chinese person? Or is China simply too big to be really concerned with foreign counties and their politicians?
  • Hailey
    69
    What do you think it means that Trump is made fun of by a large majority as a complete idiot and liar in the European Union when you contrast that with your own views?Benkei

    Of couse I'm aware of this. Chinese are also entertained by him in many occasions. Yes, he made fun of himself. But let's remember that neither of Trump and Biden is good. But besides the many stupid things Trump said and did, I think his views on American economy and foreign policy would benefit America and the rest of the world. The best thing about him is that he is anti-war. For Americans, I don't think Biden will do much for Americans who are not wealthy because he himself belongs to the elite group. For Trump, he at least cares for the numbers and statistics such as inflation and unemployment rate and want them to look good. Isn't this the reason why Trump has so many supporters?
    To what extent are your views a representation of the average Chinese person?Benkei
    I don't think my views are representative of average Chinese. In China, some people don't care about politics at all, some know very little about them both, others want Trump get elected so that the US will get more divided and American policies become more discontinued. Also, people enjoy the fun Trump brought.
    Or is China simply too big to be really concerned with foreign counties and their politicians?Benkei
    You should know that in many countries politics is not a big part of people's lives.
  • Metaphysician Undercover
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    The best thing about him is that he is anti-war.Hailey

    I think that is just an illusion. He demonstrated bullying tactics throughout his life, and with every country that he dealt with as president. You can say that the bully just likes to pick on people, and does not want to start a fight. But people tend to have a limited tolerance for abuse, and when push comes to shove, the fight is actually started by the bullying.
  • Tom Storm
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    For Americans, I don't think Biden will do much for Americans who are not wealthy because he himself belongs to the elite group. For Trump, he at least cares for the numbers and statistics such as inflation and unemployment rate and want them to look good. Isn't this the reason why Trump has so many supporters?Hailey

    No, I think most of us know this is wrong. Trump doesn't appear to give a shit about anything but getting elected and he knows his base is comprised of many working people, so he needs to say things that seem pro worker. But can you name substantive initiatives that he delivered?

    Biden, may have failed in many respects, but has actually been seen by many as pro-worker, despite being an elderly, privileged white guy.

    I noticed this from a well known American Labor newspaper.

    https://labortribune.com/30-things-biden-has-done-to-help-workers/
  • Hailey
    69
    He demonstrated bullying tactics throughout his life, and with every country that he dealt with as president.Metaphysician Undercover

    You're probably right. Perhaps I should not comment so much on Trump since I have only very limited knowledge of him, unlike most of you.
  • NOS4A2
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    You're probably right. Perhaps I should not comment so much on Trump since I have only very limited knowledge of him, unlike most of you.

    No, you were right. I would trust your own thoughts long before any acolyte of Western intelligentsia.

    The anti-Trump propaganda in the West puts any historical propaganda to blame. People still believe he colluded with Russia, for example, and will never take any accountability for lying about it for so long.
  • praxis
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    You're probably right. Perhaps I should not comment so much on Trump since I have only very limited knowledge of him, unlike most of you.Hailey

    Just out of curiosity, how does the Chinese government selectively block internet access to information that puts Trump in a bad light? And any thoughts on why they do that?
  • Hailey
    69
    Just out of curiosity, how does the Chinese government selectively block internet access to information that puts Trump in a bad light? And any thoughts on why they do that?praxis

    This is the interesting part. I suspect that they do. Since we don't have much direct infomation about your present or previous president, I'm thinking that maybe the algrithms are to blame. Once I clicked a video that pictured Trump in a good light, the platform began to feed me with similar stuff. One thing I must point out is that though both of them looked stupid from time to time (or most of the time), Trump at least appeared to be able to talk logically and at length. Biden, on the other hand, seems too old to even speak, let alone to walk. Plus he looks extra gross when he was with kidds. So another possibility of why Chinese prefer Trump is that given they are both awful, whereas you can find evidence that suggest Trump still functions as a person, you can't find evidence that Biden is still capable of thinking on his own. Sorry to put it this way but I'm being honest, from my perspective here in China.
  • praxis
    6.5k


    The BBC is widely considered an unbiased news source. Here is a BBC article that doesn't show Trump in the best light: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66505804

    What happens when you click on the link? Is it blocked somehow?
  • Hailey
    69
    Unfortunately, it is blocked. Also, Google doesn't work in China, as well as ChatGPT. But there is a very small proportion of Chinese who use the so-called ladder to have access to the wide world. It is not allowed if it is for commercial use, however, if you use it personally and if you don't do something against the government, then you should be fine, though it may occasionally fail to connect.
  • Hailey
    69
    What happens when you click on the link? Is it blocked somehow?praxis

    Another thing you should notice is that most Chinese are not good at English. So we heavily rely on domestc news, which can be biased. Also, knowledge presented in Chinese often suck. Plus the most famous search engine in China is a piece of ... I'm sure that most Chinese agree with me on this. It is even difficult for AI language models to generate good output in Chinese because the input materials are very lacking. Sad story. Is there anything else you'd like to know..
  • praxis
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    Is there anything else you'd like to know..Hailey

    You didn't answer my question about why the Chinese government would favor Trump. If anything it seems like they would favor Biden because Biden is supposed to be more socialist. In fact, Trump is constantly claiming that Biden is a communist, and that communism is a VERY VERY bad thing.
  • Hailey
    69
    You didn't answer my question about why the Chinese government would favor Trumppraxis

    Chinese government never officially express their preference, so there is no way of knowing.
  • Hailey
    69
    f anything it seems like they would favor Biden because Biden is supposed to be more socialist.praxis

    Why is this? No one in China thinks this way.
  • praxis
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    No one in China thinks this way.Hailey

    No one in China thinks that socialism or communism is good?
  • RogueAI
    2.8k
    The best thing about him is that he is anti-war.Hailey

    Do you not remember when Iran launched missiles at an American air base and soldiers were sent to the hospital with TBI's? What do you think would have happened had any of those missiles killed an American?
  • Hailey
    69
    No one in China thinks that socialism or communism is good?praxis

    Many Chinese think socialism is good. But no Chinese would think Biden is a communist. There were people once called Trump a communist. Surprise, surprise. The discrepancy between our views are interesting and thought-provoking.
  • praxis
    6.5k
    no Chinese would think Biden is a communist.Hailey

    Then they must recognize what a blatant lier Trump is. That’s good. Trump has his supporters here convinced that Biden is a communist. That’s millions of people or at least 30% of the population. Granted we Americans aren’t the brightest bunch.

    Again though, it’s odd that your government favors such anti-socialist rhetoric.
  • Hailey
    69
    No, you were right. I would trust your own thoughts long before any acolyte of Western intelligentsia.NOS4A2

    The only thing I can see clearly is that Trump has surely stepped into many people's ways. No wonder they want him removed and indicted him for so many times. It's just that he himself is far from a perfect victim. I also believe that news and media had their impact on people, at least subconsciously. Though people may get certain things right, but are they right about the big picture? As someone from China, I'm fully aware of the possibility that I may be misinformed and brainwashed into what I belief, but do westerners realize that they may be as well? More importantly, what is the likelihood that we're using emotions and feelings to rule our head that we continue to find evidence to support our feelings but ignore the opposing evidence that may suggest otherwise. I guess we all fall for this.
  • javi2541997
    5.8k
    Many Chinese think socialism is good. But no Chinese would think Biden is a communist.Hailey

    Neither we. But it is important that you also point out that Chinese society doesn't see Biden that way because some media and Trump supporters consider Biden a communist as well as Pol Pot.
  • Hailey
    69
    But it is important that you also point out that Chinese society doesn't see Biden that way because some media and Trump supporters consider Biden a communist as well as Pol Pot.javi2541997

    It seemed odd to me because why would he be? Is there evidence or is that most things people spread nowadays misinformation?
  • javi2541997
    5.8k
    Is there evidence or is that most things people spread nowadays misinformation?Hailey

    Sadly, it is the latter.
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