• Agustino
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    Does a post get banned by an overuse of emojis?René Descartes
    No - unless you do that every post in serious threads which aren't located in The Lounge.

    Hahahaha! Where have I heard all these stories before. Oh, the United States of America, isn't that a funny coincidence. :lol: :rofl: :sweat: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :joke: :lol: Hahahaha!René Descartes
    No man, I'm serious, this stuff is quite frequent in Eastern Europe.

    In Eastern Europe, if a President asks a female journalist to come have sex with him - his rating goes up! He's seen as a real man, strong :strong:
    In Eastern Europe, if a man does NOT cheat on his wife, then we say he is not a man.
    In Eastern Europe, if a man pays his taxes, then we say he is retard. That is why, when I first started in business and my father saw me paying me taxes, he said "What are you doing?! Are you making millions of dollars?! If not, then don't worry, nobody will come after you!". Ever since I actually paid my taxes, he has taken me to be a hopeless retard.
    In Eastern Europe if you do not have sex with as many women as possible, then we say you are a homosexual. That is why Vladimir praised Berlusconi for shagging the prostitutes:


    In Eastern Europe, if you do not accept bribe, we do not know what to say anymore!
  • Agustino
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    "He likes bella ragazze! What do you have against him?"



    :rofl:

    Show me where you see something like this in the US.
  • LD Saunders
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    I wonder why people keep associating Marxism with atheism, when Marxism is a supernatural belief system, start to finish. The fact Marxism bans other religions, doesn't mean it itself is not a religion. Islam bans Hinduism, for example, but who would argue Islam is thus not a religion?

    Marx claimed that capitalism, socialism, and communism, all had pre-ordained historical roles to fulfill. How is that not a supernatural belief? Marx claimed that there was such a thing as a commodity's "value," which differed from its price and could not be empirically verified and measured. How is that not a supernatural belief?

    Marxism is a religion, and an entirely supernatural one at that.
  • Buxtebuddha
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    I wonder why people keep associating Marxism with atheism, when Marxism is a supernatural belief system, start to finish. The fact Marxism bans other religions, doesn't mean it itself is not a religion. Islam bans Hinduism, for example, but who would argue Islam is thus not a religion?

    Marx claimed that capitalism, socialism, and communism, all had pre-ordained historical roles to fulfill. How is that not a supernatural belief? Marx claimed that there was such a thing as a commodity's "value," which differed from its price and could not be empirically verified and measured. How is that not a supernatural belief?

    Marxism is a religion, and an entirely supernatural one at that.
    LD Saunders

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  • Baden
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    Lessons in cultural understanding 101 with Agu. Lol. :)
  • Agustino
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    Don't make me laugh.René Descartes
    No man, what Trump did is kids play. Really - even Trump himself cannot and does not talk such things in public. He apologised for it when it came out.

    Also look at how he shies from saying anything about having had sex with beauty contest contenders, etc.

    You have not seen Trump and you will never see Trump - as President - asking a journalist publicly to have sex with him, saying on TV that his wife isn't watching so he can flirt with other women, having sex orgies with underage prostitutes at his house, pretending to have sex with a policewoman in the middle of the street where everyone can see etc.

    That is also why the U.S has such a high rate of tax evasion, losing hundreds of billions of dollars every year. If one does not evade tax one is not a successful business man.René Descartes
    Legally avoiding tax is different than illegally avoiding it.

    If you want to be president of the US you either have to be sexist or have sex with lots of women or get involved in some war. Cause that shows they are "Strong":strong:René Descartes
    No, probably quite the contrary.

    By the way, Italy is in Western Europe, not Eastern, so I don't see what Berlusconi has to do with your comment about Eastern European nations.René Descartes
    In terms of culture, Italy is closer to countries like Greece than to the Western European nations (England, France, Germany, etc.).
  • Maw
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    Wow, how did we get so off track from Donald Trump to Marxism.René Descartes

    With the rise of the internet-savy alt-right, Godwin's Law has a new challenger: one that uses Marx as a succedaneum for Hitler.
  • LD Saunders
    312
    Rene: No, the Marxists infused the government with their Marxist superstitious nonsense. Even to the point of adopting a pseudoscientific claim regarding genetics, that plants could be modified by simply changing their environmental conditions, when real genetics tells us that an environment can only select mutations that are actually present and not create them. Thus, ignoring reality in favor of their supernatural beliefs, the Soviets caused mass starvation.

    Capitalism is most definitely not a supernatural belief, it is part of reality. Marx's claim that Capitalism is carrying out some pre-ordained historical role, however, is pure nonsense and a superstitious belief if there ever was one.

    If Muslims outlawed Hinduism, in the name of Islam, would anyone then conclude that Muslims must be secular-science-minded people because they were ridding their government of religion, i.e., Hinduism? No. They would recognize that what was taking place was the targeting of one religion by another. Yet, when Marxists do the same thing when they take over, we are supposed to believe that they are atheists and scientifically minded people despite Marxists long history of denying basic Mendelian genetics because it was considered to be too capitalistic?
  • LD Saunders
    312
    Marx was quite vicious. When he wasn't speculating in the stock-market with his friend's Engel's capitalist earnings, he was writing demented tracks of hatred. What did he say about the Jews that would have gotten him kicked out of Hitler's SS? Nothing.
  • LD Saunders
    312
    Marx was as anti-Semitic as any stormtrooper, and not a Jew. He wrote that the Jews worshipped money, that they should be killed off, considered them racially inferior and referred to them as niggers. This is why the USSR persecuted Jews throughout its existence ---- they were following Marx's anti-Semitism.

    By the way, before becoming Chancellor of Germany, Socialist Hitler held joint strikes with his communist allies. Stalin was also allied with Hitler at one point, and the Germans assisted Lenin in rising to power in Russia.
  • The Devils Disciple
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    @René Descartes

    Firstly Where did you get this strange idea that Karl Marx was a jew?

    Seccondal whats with this strange hero worship of Karl Marx, as if he was Jesus.

    Marx is more like the Jesus of Communism

    think if Jesus were living in our world he would either be a Marxist or an Anarchist.

    Karl marx and jesus and the antithesis of each other

    1) jesus would never support the forceful seizure of property, by the state, from the rich or any man. It is true that jesus was critical of the rich however, he would have only have supported their volantarily donation of all they own. Why because jesus believes in individual freedom, unlike Marx.

    2) jesus would never ever support world wide revolution. Why because he was a pacifist and would never kill anyone. Marx thinks its fine to kill the rich in the name of revolution.

    3) Marx as far as i understand thought of Religon as the opressor of the poor, why? Because for the last thousand years religon kept the peasantry subservant, the upperclasses claimed divine right to rule and the uneducated peasants obeyed this claim. Just look at the indulgences and stuff like that. Now you might claim that religon should not operate like this, but in reality that is how religon work for thousand of years and marx was reacting agaisnt that reality.
  • Akanthinos
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    Firstly Where did you get this strange idea that Karl Marx was a jew?The Devils Disciple

    He was ancestrally Jewish, his maternal grandfather was a Rabi. His dad converted to Lutherianism as a way to avoid persecution and to further his legal career. Perhaps Descartes got confused by that?
  • Maw
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    Is this thread about Donald Trump or Marx now?
  • Akanthinos
    1k
    I cannot choose to be an African because none of my ancestry is from there, and Marx couldn't choose to be a Jew because his family was mostly Jewish.René Descartes

    Depends on interpretation of the Halakhic law. Since both his parents converted to Lutherianism, he no longer has at least one Jewish parent. But then, his parents had him when they were both Jewish, so...

    You have to admit, an ethnic Jewish person will likely raise a lot of eyebrows when he states he is both Jewish and Lutherian. As such, I've much more often seen Marx described as a German philosopher than a Jewish philosopher.

    Is this thread about Donald Trump or Marx now?Maw

    Ah c'mon! This Marx intermission is pretty much the best thing about this thread.
  • Akanthinos
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    what do people think of his tariffs on Steel and Aluminium Tariffs?René Descartes

    A major "Fuck you, Canada!" to compensate for the one from Boeing we just rebuked.

    If Trumps wants to paint doing business with Canada as a serious national security threat, then we can exit NAFTA, start again dumping prices on wood, and even cancel the hydro contracts that powers a third of New England and New York!

    You thought New Yorkers were dicks, wait until they've spent two weeks in February with no heat!
  • Noble Dust
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    You thought New Yorkers were dicks, wait until they've spent two weeks in February with no heat!Akanthinos

    You underestimate the pain tolerance of New Yorkers.
  • Agustino
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    If you don't regard that as being forceful, then something's wrong with you. Ok, the rich people are given a choice, but if they choose wrongly their reward is death, and according to the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, rich mean go to hell and receive eternal damnation, which is rather forceful.

    Jesus is God, and as God has killed so many people I don't see why Jesus would not.

    Jesus would never support a worldwide revolution? The second coming of Christ and the Day of Judgement is global revolution. The four horsemen of the apocalypse and the devil come and oppress the world. The people and angels must be lead by Jesus to free them from the oppressor. At the end, the people will be judged, the good will go to heaven and the bad (including those who have oppressed the poor in their lifetime) will go to hell. Tell me in what way that is not a revolution.
    René Descartes
    This is BS. Marx advocates an immanent revolution within the world, driven by human beings. Marx believes humans can judge right and wrong accurately.

    Jesus advocates a transcendent revolution, driven by the Divine, not by sinful human beings. These two are not the same at all. Neither is divine punishment the same as human punishment.
  • ssu
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    Moving back to Trump, what do people think of his tariffs on Steel and Aluminium Tariffs?René Descartes
    Trump is making his best effort to get the next economic slowdown to start.

    Just in time for the 2018 elections.

    After all, he's best at shooting himself in the foot and making things worse for him.
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