Imagine we have two families, two sets of parents. One of them is supporting and encouraging. The other disparaging, insulting. Do you think that the results on the child would be random, all else being equal? Or if the child is damaged, this is because they allowed themselves to be, and is their own fault? — All sight
The disdain, disgust, and disapproval is fully justified, and accurate, and you should care about it. — All sight
This is why I both spoke of restraint — All sight
...but the subject was that it is counter productive, and poor strategy. — All sight
Christianity is perhaps the most successful institution to grace the earth, that it hasn't fully succeeded doesn't mean that it hasn't succeeded better than anything else ever has. — All sight
The important point though, is that you're talking past me, imagining that I'm personally hurt by verbal abuse and complaining — All sight
it was in perusing the site that I noticed the prevalence of it, and suggested that it was, indeed, unpleasant (as if it were not intended to be), but the subject was that it is counter productive, and poor strategy. — All sight
but the subject was that it is counter productive, and poor strategy. — All sight
have also found it amusing when being rude, blunt, arrogant or aggressive.... — Sapientia
....has been contrasted with being analytical and logical, — Sapientia
as if the one and the other are mutually exclusive. — Sapientia
I fully admit to not being a stoic, but being emotionally swayed by the lights I'm painted in by others. — All sight
Is all forms of derogatory and hateful speech always okay — All sight
"The above guidelines are in place to help us maintain a high standard of discussion and debate, and they will be enforced. If you feel from the get-go that their very existence impinges on your right to free speech, this is probably not the place for you."
The fact that we're a moderated forum with standards that are enforced, and that you don't have an absolute right to free speech is not going to change. — Baden
I don't wish to control my emotions, I wish to control the world. — All sight
What are the results we seek? To not care that someone is drowning next to us, or for someone not to be drowning next to us. — All sight
then I don't think that it is appropriate, or rational to just change the way we feel. — All sight
If you can't figure that one out, you're really in trouble, as you are if you can't figure out why the mod team on this site are not the same as Nazis simply because we enforce certain standards, or why in general certain things like Nazism, pedophilia, rape etc. are wrong for obvious reasons that we don't need to go into here because we'd rather spend time on stuff that is actually worth debating. But, yes, feel free to go to other sites to try to figure out why Nazism is wrong. I hope you manage it some day. — Baden
You're not trying to change me? What are you doing then? Having a laugh? Wasting time? Personally I would much prefer it if you were actually trying to change me... but what are you doing? — All sight
I never said that I was particularly kind and loving, wouldn't require confession and redemption if I were. Just that they are really important things to strive for. Not only for personal well being, but because they work better to operate on within human relationships at every level. — All sight
It's not a poor me act, it's trying to understand where all of these baseless accusations are coming from. I don't think that replying to you further is worth while. I'm not actually worried that I'm going to be interpreted in such lights in general. As this rarely happens, as a matter of fact. — All sight
I don't wish to control my emotions, I wish to control the world. Accept the things I cannot change, but change the things I can. Just changing how I feel towards them is easy though, it's called delusion and addiction. — All sight
Maybe I should be able to handle it better as well. I think that both can be true, for sure. Thank you for your comment. — All sight
It's not so much labels are the problem, but labels used deliberately and unfairly as a rhetorical strategy, which we can all be guilty of sometimes. And even then the best way to react is simply to push back. — Baden
For example, Harry Hindu has every right to label the mod team Nazis if he wants (here in feedback anyway). It's up to us then to argue back if we want. It wouldn't be sensible for either of us to take any of that personally, and I wouldn't even bother calling it "abusive" as that in itself could be deemed just another label. Come to think of it, aren't we in danger of labelling the labelers, "labelers"! — Baden
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