If you guys want to believe in medieval physics, go for it. I'm not wasting my time anymore — Gregory
The previous moment defines the next — Devans99
assuming time has a start [...] If time has no start, what then? — Devans99
13.77 ± 0.059 billion years
the universe is flat with only a 0.4% margin of error
When did God create time, and how long did it take him? — Yohan
How, then, shall I respond to him who asks, “What was God doing before he made heaven and earth?” I do not answer, as a certain one is reported to have done facetiously (shrugging off the force of the question). “He was preparing hell,” he said, “for those who pry too deep.” — The Confessions (400) by Augustine (354-430)
Define "must" please. Others, in other posts (notably 180) have made the observation that the Universe is decidedly not "fine-tuned" for life. Anyone with the slightest understanding of what's out there must concur.Spacetime is fine-tuned for life. So there must be something external to spacetime that did that fine-tuning. — Devans99
We have a self-contained universe. — Gregory
You need to give up the the Newtonian idea of time — Gregory
Einstein and Hawking, the two greatest thinkers of the last century, didn't think the universe required a God separate from it. — Gregory
Define "must" please. Others, in other posts (notably 180) have made the observation that the Universe is decidedly not "fine-tuned" for life. Anyone with the slightest understanding of what's out there must concur. — tim wood
Using the human perception of time to argue a Primary Cause outside of time is...it seems, from my perspective, nonsense. — Seditious
5. such time has no such numbering of moments — jorndoe
Thoughts flow in the mind. There are past thoughts, a present thought and future thoughts. — Devans99
on the assumption that the human perception of the linear progression of time is inherently correct and trustworthy. — Seditious
Your suggestion that people can't have wonder if they don't believe in an all-powerful guy out there is wrong wrong wrong. You just think everyone is like you. You don't have to believe in anything higher than humans and other mammals. — Gregory
Respectfully suggest that you re-read and absorb what Seditious has to say. Your reasoning is based — EricH
imagine the series of motions as a bunch of pictures. Together they flow to create time, but there is no time before the first motion. Gravity causes the whole series to move and time to flow, but there is no before so a God or anything else outside the series is not needed. The world is uncaused, having its own causality within it, as you say of the dude out there — Gregory
It is only within the last 100 years that we have become aware of the immensity of the universe we live in - and there are still vast gaps in our knowledge. — EricH
To think that we can unravel the mystery of time based on the functionality of our advanced monkey brains is a case of hubris — EricH
I say gravity starts time and the first motio — Gregory
Obviously the no boundary hypothesis is too hard to understand for you. — Gregory
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