Vague talk about the limits of logic and how this renders the most salient dimensions of human existence unspeakable is just dismissive, and sets one on a course of inquiry that, in positivist fashion, prizes clarity over substance, and if "Making our Ideas Clear" (Peirce) were the be all and end all of philosophy — Constance
What, exactly, was there in the beginning such that to utter the words makes beginnings possible at all? In the beginning there was the word? — Constance
Take this quite literally: How are such things that are "begun" to be conceived prior to their beginning; or, what is presupposed by a beginning? An absolute beginning makes no sense at all, for to begin would have to be ex nihilo and this is a violation of a foundation level intuition, a causeless cause, spontaneously erupting into existence simply is impossible, just as space cannot be conceived to "end". — Constance
The real question is, does the world "speak"? — Constance
...no one suggests that the world did not exist prior to language. — Hanover
Religion generally deals with issues of the origins and nature of reality, ontology, so, of course it's philosophy. — T Clark
In the beginning there was the word? — Constance
God's word has the power of creation. — baker
Gods are eternal. They posses the magic essence. They created the world in their image. So the world is eternal and magic filled. The eternal magic is created by divine words only. Which goes to show that in the beginning there was the word. Spoken by gods for the holy trinity to emerge. From which we and every living creature are formed. In the beginning there was one-ness. Shifting over time in a dual interdependend world united by the magic bodies that we are. In between we are. The contemplation of the holy trinity unit is heard by revelations. To be spread by the word. I give you that words. — Prishon
Not if there is an eternal universe. A 4d spatial static substrate on which our universe evolves. And a next one.
There was a fluctuating time before it took of in one direction (entropic time). — Prishon
what is the structure of time that is there PRIOR to, that is, presupposed by normal science. — Constance
But the question is begged: Prior to the Big Bang as a meaningful notion at all, there is the language out of which this theory in physics is constructed. Big? What does this mean? — Constance
The fact that they both attempt to answer the same questions doesn't make them the same fields. — Hanover
Reliance upon sacred texts, deities, and the supernatural are well within the purview of religion, but not of philosophy. — Hanover
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