If some government went barmy and demanded something of me I didn't want to give it, the government is going to win, hands down every time, my .22 hunting rifle is no match for fully armed AFOs, let alone the army. — Isaac
Civilians with guns are not going to stop the US military, ... — Maw
Peasants with guns have been besting professional militaries for decades (throughout all of human history, really), including the US military on several occasions.
And fighting against a guerilla on your own soil, against your own people? A modern military wouldn't stand a chance, no matter how much barbarism it is willing to resort to. — Tzeentch
If you are going to use historical precedence to justify your argument you ought to look at actual examples of US militia fighting against and being defeated by superior federal forces. — Maw
Waco started this war. Hopefully, Oklahoma would end it. The only way they’re going to feel something, the only way they’re going to get the message is, quote, with a body count. — McVeigh in prison in 2001
When mass shootings occur, somehow the debate is always about gun control and never about why kids are massacring kids.
It's not normal, obviously. I would be wondering what kind of rot has seeped into society that's causing it. — Tzeentch
Peasants with guns have been besting professional militaries for decades (throughout all of human history, really), including the US military on several occasions.
And fighting against a guerilla on your own soil, against your own people? A modern military wouldn't stand a chance, no matter how much barbarism it is willing to resort to. — Tzeentch
Really? The Governer and Lt. Governer of Texas are talking about mental health problems today. Not that they'll do anything about it, but they'd rather talk about this than the fact that the only recent changes to Texas gun laws were to make it even easier to buy one.When mass shootings occur, somehow the debate is always about gun control and never about why kids are massacring kids. — Tzeentch
We are sacrificing tens of thousands of lives to firearms each year in order to shelter an adult fantasy. — Maw
If you are going to use historical precedence to justify your argument you ought to look at actual examples of US militia fighting against and being defeated by superior federal forces. US militia uprising are not the Viet Cong. They are not the Taliban. Otherwise, the argument that 2A is a viable bulwark against some sort of abstract military takeover remains a vague hypothetical in contradistinction to the tangible and on-going problem of gun violence and mass shootings that currently plague the country. We are sacrificing tens of thousands of lives to firearms each year in order to shelter an adult fantasy. — Maw
"Guns flow in this country like water, and that's why we have mass shooting after mass shooting, and, you know, spare me the bullshit about mental illness. We don't have any more mental illness than any other country in the world. You cannot explain this through a prism of mental illness because we're not an outlier on mental illness, we're an outlier when it comes to access to firearms and the ability of criminals and very sick people to get their hands on firearms. That's what makes America different."
Enthusiasts want guns for self-protection, hunting, or because it's a fun hobby. The claim that it's to prevent tyranny is cover, to provide a facade of nobility to their hobby, and it's utter nonsense.How did things get this out of hand? And secondly, how much more government redundancy and representation is needed to make Americans feel safe regarding our democracy? — TiredThinker
What can take most of the guns out of circulation? — TiredThinker
(more extensive background checks, barring guns to mentally ill) — Benkei
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