I wouldn’t worry. In 50 years today’s left wing will be the moderate center. — Joshs
What evidence do you have for this? — Tom Storm
but how is Apollodorus the same as Napoleon? — Banno
What is the soul? — Banno
it's all just partly true. But not all true. — ssu
I appreciate this sketch. I must have come across this back in the day and then forgot only for me to recall it here via my "rebirth-waking up again" metaphor. — 180 Proof
There may be hard wired inclinations for sure- but the eating me part is my interpretation of 'good', the lion is just being a lion. — Proximate1
There are studies that show that human children start making what we would call "moral" distinctions at a very early age - two or three months. — T Clark
Sure, there are some who would call themselves Marxists, but they aren't the majority. — ssu
But, of course, that's just my opinion, based on my lack of experience with spirits, or knowledge of arcane "secrets". — Gnomon
What matters is what Reason says. — Bartricks
Really, I see my question as going back to the whole tradition of Greek mystery schools. — Jack Cummins
Isn't the concept of 'good' a judgement inherent to the observer? — Proximate1
The true purpose of philosophy is to maintain nature's course---to make sure humans don't depart too much from it. That's it. It doesn't teach anything. — Daniel Banyai
I don't recal ever hearing in Theravada Buddhist doctrine about the spontaneous recollection of past lives. — baker
At some point one has to choose between following Reason, and following tradition. — Bartricks
But Apollodorus is not the power to will, knowledge, action - we each have those; Apollodorus is the content that you say changes. So it's not Apollodorus who is reincarnated.
On that argument, since you and I both have the power to will, knowledge, action, we are the same person. — Banno
So, my theory is that Plato's principle of Reincarnation was an attempt to justify the goodness and justice of the gods, despite all the evidence against it in the real world — Gnomon
The mind is the object that is conscious. That is, it 'has' consciousness as one of its properties. But it is not itself consciousness - that's a category error of the sort Banno and others who don't know their stuff are wont to make. — Bartricks
But the arguments - two of them anyway - establish that our minds exist with aseity. That is, they exist without having been caused to exist. That entails that God did not create us. There's no problem with that - it's not inconsistent with the three essential divine attributes. But it does conflict, it would seem, with something the bible says. However, the statement it conflicts with is an incoherent one. And anyway, the bottom line is 'so much the worse for scripture'. At some point one has to choose between following Reason, and following tradition. — Bartricks
as I understand it, the bible says both that God created everything, and also that God created all things that have been created. The latter is consistent with God not having created us. — Bartricks
Actually you do; frozen water will always consist in a discrete chunk. For that matter even bodies of water, parts of which might freeze are generally discrete.And water vapour may form separate clouds. — Janus
What is it that is reincarnated? — Banno
All this to say, the road is not as clear as has been presumed. — Banno
If you view consciousness as a form of energy then it can be explained empirically. — Pantagruel
Hmm déjà vu – guess I'm the skunk at the woo party again. — 180 Proof
Those are states of mind or processes involving minds. Obviously. You do not divide water by freezing it, even though that changes its state. Likewise you do not divide a mind by changing its state from thought to desire or whatever. — Bartricks
I believe all of these arguments are sound, though only one needs to be. — Bartricks
Should someone be permitted to move into my house and sleep in my bed? As one of God's children of equal worth, why should my bed be reserved for me and they be required to sleep somewhere less comfortable? — Hanover
We do not identify as a species, and so cannot be governed as a species. — counterpunch
You may take this as a personal attack but it is not. — Fooloso4
I just watched an awesome program about what can happen when we speak to our hearts and listen to our hearts. When we live in our heads, what we think reality is can be pretty dark. More animal desire and fear than the love and freedom we can experience when connecting with our hearts. We might think of the heart consciousness as a spiritual force and see in many spiritual traditions, including Christianity, the rituals people practice to connect with this force. A few days ago I watched a program about Evangelical Christians and they were obviously connected with the spiritual force and there is no way we are going to convince the people who experience this that there is not a God and a reality that is different from the reality we create in our heads, of desires and fears. — Athena
By us I assume you include yourself. Start with that. What makes you so defensive? — Fooloso4