What's your proposed solution to the problem?

Well, if it's true there should be corroborating evidence out there. Worth a look for sure.

Freedom of speech. (If you ask the right questions).

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jul/26/cnn-reporter-banned-trump-white-house-event-kaitlan-collins

On its own the source looks too left-wing biased to be trusted. Worth some research though.

Did Bengazhi harm Dems chances? That was huge. For the right anyway. But...

"According to The Hill, the hearings provided a positive momentum for Clinton's 2016 campaign, with her performance generating headlines such as "Marathon Benghazi hearing leaves Hillary Clinton largely unscathed" (CNN), and "GOP lands no solid punches while sparring with Clinton over Benghazi" (The Washington Post). Her campaign received a windfall of donations, mostly coming from new donors."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Benghazi

Whether Russiagate turns out to amount to anything or not is unlikely to move overall numbers much. Dems have a demographic advantage, growing numbers of minority voters and a significant edge amongst upcoming generations, which is a much more salient clue to future voting intentions than the results of this probe.

:lol:



Do you mind if I ask what your main source of news is? What's your go-to news website?

So how believable are these statements? — raza

Not particularly interested in gossip, no. — raza

insert your evidence here >……………< — raza

OK, on the basis of what? Where is your evidence he is a fraud? I presume you found some now and are not just making random unsubstantiated claims. So, let's see it.

Yes, I will support a process being attempted to impeach Trump and then see where it may lead. — raza

Good to hear. It is likely to eventually happen and it will be interesting to see where it does lead. But there is not enough evidence yet to justify it. And that applies even more so to Rosenstein.

I think Rosey is a fraud — raza

I have no idea why you think this.

Give us a break, about two seconds after talking about Stalin and Gulags, you were supporting the impeachment of Rosenstein on the basis of nothing, no evidence. Now you dredge up two conservative opinion pieces saying Rosenstein missed a deadline. Are you serious? So, what? Again, if this is all it takes for you to support impeachment just have a look at the twenty or thirty links I provided earlier in the discussion with regard to Trump's links to Russians and possible money laundering. So, you'd support impeachment proceedings against him for the sake of transparency, right?

Yes, but it plays well with their base. That's all they care about here.

Let the (show) trial begin!

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/gowdy-rosenstein-impeachment-722237

"The chairman of the powerful House Oversight and Government Reform Committee said Sunday he doesn't support a push by conservative lawmakers to impeach Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

“No. For what? Impeach him for what? No,” Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/17/trump-ryan-rosenstein-impeachment-republicans-726247

"Ryan — who has long sought to avoid...confrontations with the Justice Department — told reporters Tuesday morning that DOJ is “now coming into compliance” with congressional subpoenas as part of lawmakers’ scrutiny into alleged FBI bias against Trump."

In other words, there is no failure to hand over documents, just a delay, which, considering the amount of documents involved, is completely understandable, and no reason whatsoever for impeachment except in the rabid imaginings of the extreme right who are even beginning to annoy the regular right with their childish shenanigans.

Both Ryan and Gowdy's statements on the record show they think it's as ridiculous and unsubstantiated as we do.

There will be no further process involving the presenting of evidence. It ends here with this embarrassing self-serving move.

I "support" the accusation that he keeps failing to turn over requested documents. — raza

On the basis of no evidence. On your own admission you didn't even bother looking into it. That makes you one of the sheeple you like to talk about who just blindly follow politicians without thinking for yourself. Try looking at the evidence and try thinking for yourself. Follow your own advice.

So, you supported his impeachment on the basis of nothing but some vague wish for transparency. OK, so presumably you support impeaching Trump for the same reason. Let's do it.

You are really slow. There will be no process because there is no basis for a process. Just like if you accuse someone of a crime they won't be charged when there is zero evidence they committed one. Do you understand yet? There will be no impeachment because there is no reason for one.

:yawn: Evidence. Go ahead. We're waiting.

Yawn. Cite the evidence he's not carrying out his duties. And statements by lying politicians greasing their own wheels don't count. Go ahead.

You don't have to legally defend yourself against every nonsense unsubstantiated claim made by those who consider you a political threat. You ignore all that and get on with your job, which is exactly what Rosenstein will do.

It's just showboating and going nowhere. The more sensible wing of the Republican party knows you can't impeach someone just because you consider them a political enemy. Jim Jordan is likely also motivated by trying to distract from the recently exposed scandal involving him covering up sexual abuse. Pretty sad and will end in ignominy for those involved.

There's no way to do that automatically. I wish there was as I agree it would help. @jamalrob runs the PayPal account to which donations go though, and can update us on the figures at any point.

If adultery is still legal, then everything less painful in the survey should be legal. Or if we keep all the less painful illegal, than anything worse than the least should be illegal. That is a rational justice system — wellwisher

Your posts are painful to read and probably inflict more pain on their readers than my stealing a stick of gum did on the supermarket I stole it from. If only we had a rational justice system, you would be committing a crime and I'd be chewing on free gum every day with impunity.

Will AI take all or most of jobs? — Posty McPostface

Here's hopin'!

:cheer:

Yes, there is that. It's a pity Trump and his cronies are even more swampy than those they replaced imo. But there is a definite "a pox on all your (political) houses" element to his rise.

Trying to look at this objectively I see more irrationality coming from the left then I do the right... It's dangerous. — Sam26

And yet you give no evidence at all of this. And dangerous? Donald Trump could literally start a nuclear war at any moment. I would think his irrationality is the more important worry here.

Probably. Some. Those that don't just hate immigrants and Muslims like he does. But a heart attack is probably not the best cure for cancer.

So, what's wrong with fascism? — Posty McPostface

Thanks, I hadn't realized the extent of the other angles. Credit where credit is due, Russia with Putin is punching well above its geopolitical weight. Time to wake up and smell the кофе.

:lol:

:cheer:

Anyway, I don't know what you hope to achieve by pimping for the great orange one here, @raza. Tell you what though, if it all turns out we loonies have got our heads stuck in a CNN blown fart cloud of fake news, and it's all just a big misundermastanding and Trump is just as clean as a newborn's arse and not at all the dirty little KGB-controlled birdy we make him out to be, I will personally come on this thread and admit publicly I was all wrong. Will you? Or will you disappear back into the dark bowels of the that-will-here-remain-unmentioned country from which you emerged to await your next mission in the hostile jungle of the lib-run internets?

Because even a child could see that Donald is Putin's poodle...?

Re: edit. Seems to be a different story to the one I thought. So many of them.

They bought a property of his that was worth $45 million for about $100 million likely for reasons of money laundering. He's in it deep. No wonder he didn't want to become president.

Got an email from Avaaz who are outing Trump as a Russian money launderer. A lot of evidence on this :

Trump’s Russian Laundromat (The New Republic)
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

Everything We Know About Russia and President Trump (Committee to Investigate Russia)
https://investigaterussia.org/timelines/everything-we-know-about-russia-and-president-trump

Secret Money: How Trump Made Millions Selling Condos To Unknown Buyers (Buzzfeed News)
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/thomasfrank/secret-money-how-trump-made-millions-selling-condos-to

Trump’s Russian connections (Financial Times)
https://ig.ft.com/sites/trumps-russian-connections/

Dirty money: Trump and the Kazakh connection (Financial Times)
https://www.ft.com/content/33285dfa-9231-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a923

Trump's oldest son said a decade ago that a lot of the family's assets came from Russia (Business Insider)
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-said-money-pouring-in-from-russia-2018-2

Sales of Trump properties suggestive of money-laundering - researcher (Reuters)
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-russia-fusion/sales-of-trump-properties-suggestive-of-money-laundering-researcher-idUKKBN1F8058

Tower of secrets: the Russian money behind a Donald Trump skyscraper (Financial Times)
https://www.ft.com/trumptoronto

Trump Tower Toronto Was 'Investment Scheme And Conspiracy': Lawsuit (Huffington Post)
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/11/07/trump-tower-toronto-lawsuit_n_12849150.html?guccounter=1

If Trump Is Laundering Russian Money, Here’s How It Works (Wired)
https://www.wired.com/story/if-trump-is-laundering-russian-money-heres-how-it-works/

Trump's casino was a money laundering concern shortly after it opened (CNN)
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-taj-mahal/index.html

Donald Trump and the mansion that no one wanted. Then came a Russian fertilizer king (Miami Herald)
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article135187364.html

Everything you want to know about Donald Trump's bankruptcies (CNN)
https://money.cnn.com/2015/08/31/news/companies/donald-trump-bankruptcy/

Canada's highest court upholds ruling that Donald Trump did mislead investors (The Independent)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-lawsuit-canada-court-approves-legal-case-against-us-president-a7623566.html

Russian elite invested nearly $100 million in Trump buildings (Reuters)
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/

Why did a Russian pay $95M to buy Trump’s Palm Beach mansion? (The Seattle Times)
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/why-did-a-russian-pay-95m-to-buy-trumps-palm-beach-mansion/

The Russia investigation and Donald Trump: a timeline from on-the-record sources (updated) (Politifact)
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/jul/16/russia-investigation-donald-trump-timeline-updated/

Donald Trump’s Worst Deal: The President helped build a hotel in Azerbaijan that appears to be a corrupt operation engineered by oligarchs tied to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard (The New Yorker)
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

Trump’s Business of Corruption (The New Yorker)
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption

Trump lawyer 'paid by Ukraine' to arrange White House talks (BBC)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44215656

After becoming President, Trump has sold millions in real estate in secret deals (Newsweek)
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-real-estate-secret-buyers-777276

Just What Were Donald Trump's Ties to the Mob? (Politico)
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910

Russian lawyer from infamous Trump Tower meeting admits to being an informant for the Kremlin: Report (CNBC)
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/27/emails-show-new-ties-between-trump-tower-russian-and-kremlin-nbc.html

Well, yes, the way Trump keeps saying "There was no collusion" to the extent it's become almost a verbal tick is grounds enough for deep suspicion. Then there's that vague but growing sense of discomfort discernible behind Hannity's customized smirk that seems to extend beyond what must be a base-level understanding that to everyone beyond Trump's hard-core support he's no higher on the level of journalistic evolution than those North Korean TV presenters so drugged up on enforced dictator love they can recount with a straight face stories of Kims past and present almost literally flying over the enemy with bombs dropping out their asses. Or single handedly winning soccer world cups entirely of their imaginations. No, there's something eating Sean and the other Trump sycophants, a growing stink that can't be obscured even by the truckloads of bullshit they shovel over it on a daily basis. I suspect they all know what's coming and that not even their Herculean efforts at turning reality on its head can stop it.

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