it's not possible to present his ideas in a packaged form but you will to power and other concepts do have a some relation to his stance on slavery. — Wittgenstein

Forgive me if you went over this before. But where does Nietzsche discuss slavery, let alone be an advocate?

In other words, what our our reasons for trusting reason? — Paulm12

I would trust a sound argument or explanation. Not just because it is 'rational.'

I'll probably ignore you from now on.

I see that. I don't see it as a particularly important point. So I'm not really interested in continuing the exchange. Take care. :smile: — ZzzoneiroCosm

Why start a thread if you have no interest. Waste of time.

It was just the example I used. You're free to substitute an example more in line with your view of the world. — ZzzoneiroCosm

I did not agree with you.

Nothing, but he is destroying my integrity and honor. — javi2541997

I do not think so.

morals and ethics are centered on our relationships with other people. — ZzzoneiroCosm

Yes, but helping others in not inherent.

some individual records me not helping a homeless man in the train. — javi2541997

What is that person doing to help?

But the society or the masses would impose you that if you do not do so, — javi2541997

Not following. How do they impose?

You don't. But the notion is at the heart of morality and ethics. — ZzzoneiroCosm

Christianity? What else?

But considering that the time you spend just sitting there could be invested in helping other persons i — ZzzoneiroCosm

Why do I have to help other persons?

Is there such a thing as amorality? — ZzzoneiroCosm

Not every action we take is about morality.

I've seen numerous examples of toxic masculinity over the years. — Tom Storm

Like saying a woman is on the rag. Bad term.

The elite class of society should enjoy greater rights and be allowed to get around the law as the culture is in greater need of them. A nation is defined and distinguished from others by its culture. — Wittgenstein

Let me know when that happens.

The elite artists should fashion the taste of art in society and the common people should not be able to dictate the direction of art to the artist. — Wittgenstein

That is true now. Most people have no idea what artists are doing.

If someone had stolen his Treatise manuscript and published it as their own he would have suddenly remembered who Hume was and he would not have forgotten in a hurry or allowed anyone else to claim that his personal identity is an illusion. Also, he knew this. He was not happy with his own theory. — Cuthbert

A four year old and forty year old may be same person, but what is that property?

Individual identity is a fuzzy concept. — Relativist

Hume made the argument against identity. I think he was right.

How do art aficionados/experts identify the provenance of a painting? — Agent Smith

First, document search. Sales records.
Second, paint used. Many forgers get caught using paint that was not available at the time.

For deeply religious people, their beliefs form a core part of their identity - to admit some deeply held belief is wrong is not something that comes easy. — EricH

It is a joke, but true. "God said it, I believe it, that settles it."
Discussions about religion and theism are mostly futile.

My view is called perdurantism. — Relativist

Thanks. Had to look that up.

You either accept a claim or you don't...there isn't a middle ground. You either live in Paris or you don't. — Nickolasgaspar

Agree.

Atheism rejects all known god claims because they have failed to meet their burden...that's all. — Nickolasgaspar

It is like saying everyone either lives in Paris or not. World is Parisians (God) or non-Parisians(Atheist).

The Kalam argument never lifted off the ground. There is no evidence for any kind of unique existence of a "personal powerful being"; so the first premise is already false because there would evidence via 'cause' to point to the existence of a powerful being being 'caused to exist'. — Cobra

That is it,yes.

If only that were true, but sadly theists have never been content to keep their willful delusions to themselves. As long as theists insist on bringing theism with them to courtrooms, institutions and in the actions of elected leaders then an atheist has no choice but to engage. — DingoJones

Absolutely agree.

Atheism by definition has no indication of morality. — whollyrolling

False.

Yes. — whollyrolling

Name it.

In a sense, true, atheism is invalid because it commits the argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy (theists can't prove God; "thus" God doesn't exist). — Agent Smith

No. "I do not believe in God therefore I do not believe in God."

Well, you said unicorns are real — Hillary

I did not say that.

It's okay. What I mean is that what is considered real today can be the delusion of tomorrow. — Hillary

Ok. Nothing to do with what I said.

Atheism is not exclusive to the left, it's just an easy default for them because it is amoral and imposes no accountability. — whollyrolling

Are you saying atheists are amoral?

So horses can fly. If Pegasus was a horse with wings, what else can we conclude? It's a thin line though between psychosis and sanity. — Hillary

Sorry, I really don't understand what you're saying.

But Pegasus was a horse with wings. — Hillary

ok

Wasn't Pegasus one? — Hillary

Most people would not call an airplane a horse.

Pegasus airlines can. — Hillary

Do you believe an airplane is a horse?

But why don't flying horses exist? — Hillary

Horses cannot fly.

Flying horses don't exist and unicorns do? — Hillary

That is what I wrote.

Meinong, an Austrian philosopher active at the turn of the 20th century, believed that since non-existent things could apparently be referred to, they must have some sort of being, which he termed sosein ("being so") — Gnomon

Anything that can be referred to is a thing. Whether it has physical existence is a different question.
Do unicorns exist? Yes. Do flying horses exist, no.

Do you know what has taken the place of the left-right conflict? Is there a conflict that's well formed enough to be named? — frank

In the US it is the GOP fascist party versus democracy.

Defining "the left" and "the far left" is like using a cheap microscope. — Bitter Crank

Conservatives use the "far left" as a rhetorical device to devalue liberals. A meaningless term.

"Whatever begins to exist has a cause" — Magnus

"Exist" is not well defined.