That is not my understanding. Nor does it follow from (9). It seems you have been led astray somewhere. — Banno

No, direct reading of Leibniz. Maybe you don't understand.

If you like. Monads are not each a possible world. — Banno

Yes, they are. A monad has a complete logic unto itself Like no other monad. It is a universe unto itself.

Sure. But they are actual, not possible. — Banno

Possible refers to the logic. Not all possible worlds are realized.

God chose the best of all possible worlds to be the one instantiated by those monads.

That doesn't sound like "Monads are possible worlds"... — Banno

I see. Possible worlds preexist God's decision.

That doesn't sound like "Monads are possible worlds"... — Banno

Yes, Leibniz says each monad is a universe unto itself.

9. Indeed, each Monad must be different from every other. For in nature there are
never two beings which are perfectly alike and in which it is not possible to find
an internal difference, or at least a difference founded upon an intrinsic quality.

https://www.plato-philosophy.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/The-Monadology-1714-by-Gottfried-Wilhelm-LEIBNIZ-1646-1716.pdf

That would be surprising. Where's that from? — Banno

Leibniz. Monadology. Each possible world has a rule or logic.

What are peoples thoughts on citing their sources in the context of debating truth and presenting experimental ideas without profit being the ultimate goal? It seems impossible to have a productive conversation while simultaneously pointing to the source of every original idea — MonfortS26

If you quote someone then a source must be given. If you're stating your own ideas no source is needed.

Would you be game to define idealism in, say 4 or 5 sentences or dot points (taking as given that there are various versions)? — Tom Storm

Plato is exemplar. Ideas are the final reality.

Why do people come to a philosophy forum to discuss religion?

You just want to talk about religion. Count me out.

I'm not explicitly talking about God. The new atheists may or may not be talking about God when they denigrate the role of faith. The topic of faith is a matter of epistemology; it doesn't necessarily relate to God. — Moses

You are not talking about God and talking about God. Got it.

I could dig up quotes from the new atheist movement of the 2010s or with many atheists today — Moses

I thought you were not talking about God?

"Jackson, I never mentioned God."

The point is that worldviews which seek to completely discount the role of faith and instead advocate for a dogmatic narrow-minded commitment to "evidence" or using one's own reason to follow up on everything are bullshit. — Moses

Can you give an example?

Jackson, I never mentioned God. I'm just saying that it's insane to imagine oneself as a purely rational being who must verify everything.... I'm saying faith is a necessary part of life just in the sense of action. No mention of God here. — Moses

Ok, I thought there was some point.

I think in order to be a person in this world and actually act and do things as opposed to spending all your time "following up" or asking for evidence about everything you just kinda have to take a lot on faith.... like if I asked you what material your shirt is you'd presumably trust the tag right? But then you're taking that on faith/trust. You don't know. — Moses

Ok...therefore believing in God is rational. What is the conclusion?

Or are you going to double check how many calories are in your honey nut cheerios? — Moses

I would never eat that garbage.

That's great, but the Trump thing is only one topic. We ingest food daily that apparently contains certain ingredients or substances that we just have to trust. Or are you going to double check how many calories are in your honey nut cheerios? — Moses

I am very conscientious about my diet. My sister is a food scientist.

You can't check everything. Are you sure the ingredients in dietary supplements are correct? Or do you just look at the labels and trust them? — Moses

I check stuff more than many people. I mean, there are still people who think Trump won.

Maybe the pictures are fake. — Moses

Indeed. I always check.

You check everything? Do you have a full understanding of the big bang theory? Every news article you read? Are you sure the sources aren't lying? Maybe the pictures are fake. — Moses

Trump said he won the election. He lied. I check things.

Reuters or MSN and I'll likely (but not certainly) believe it, but it would be virtually impossible for me to fact check everything. I take it on faith. — Moses

Wow, I check things.

But one of the things this thread immediately has me wondering about is the relationship between pessimism and atheism. — Tate

Why would there be a relation?

Preach on brother.

Just curious: Why would you come to a philosophy forum to preach your religion?

I'm not sure what you mean by "pull one towards Christ." — Ciceronianus

Proselytizing thread.

Exactly. I already told you I am not a philosopher. Jesus. — Tom Storm

Goodnight.

I'm not a philosopher so for me much of what is discussed sounds like incantations and spells and often resembles some kind of shell game. The pea representing whatever form of truth you want to bet your worldview on. — Tom Storm

That is not philosophy. That is just opining.

Seems to me that most philosophy boils down to some kind of magic. — Tom Storm

Please explain. That does not sound like philosophy.

Do you know that or do you merely believe it? — Janus

I have been watching the hearings. Today his top team testified that Trump's claim was totally bogus.
But Trump already planned a coup if he lost. So the lie is in service of his power. Like a salesman, what really are you selling?

I wonder whether he really believed, or whether it just suited him to claim that he won. — Janus

Even Trump believed his own lies.

An example of belief. Jan. 6 Hearings show that Trump believed he won. His staff told him there was no evidence for that. Yet Mr. Trump believed.

Exactly. — L'éléphant

I know dead people do not think. So, the mind is gone.

Computers (including AI) have designated locations of each and every part. Humans can have experiential events, for example, dreams, where the storage is not found anywhere. Tell me, where is the mind located? — L'éléphant

Where is the human mind located? I do not know.

Computing, not thinking. Let's be clear on this. — L'éléphant

What is the difference?

I think people arguing that A.I. cannot be conscious are asking the wrong question. An intelligent system does not need to mimic human consciousness. It is just another kind of 'consciousness,' or thinking.

I think how we prepare our children for life is about much more than being on a planet. If we destroy this planet and take good care of it, matters a lot.

Chardin said "God is asleep in rocks and minerals, waking in plants and animals, to know self in man."

It is no longer the gods in charge but it is what we make it. — Athena

Ok.

How should we prepare children for life? My intended goal is to break through assumptions that might be a problem when making education decisions. — Athena

What is the need for a definition of human in order to properly educate children?

I often think our opinion of ourselves as intelligent creatures is highly overrated. — Athena

We are just on a planet. Not much more to it.

Dasein gets translated as the "there," "being-there." I think the "there" is existence, being -- "there-being," in other words. The "there" -- existence -- is this awareness, this opening. — Xtrix

I think Heidegger is referring to being in a particular situation. Being-here, Being-there. The situatedness of being.