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  • Ukraine Crisis
    Hopes or on changes to a liberal democracy are fine, insistence really none of our business and dangerousBenkei

    Probably there would be some intermediate form of governments would last a few week each. As for the government to be sustainable, it needs an army ( which is being decimated in Ukraine right now ) and money, which also won't be there without foreign trade.

    So trade partners would ask for liberal democracy and giving up nukes, to which sooner or later Russia would have to agree.

    It is our business, as to prevent Russia from attacking other countries, and I don't see how it is more dangerous than allowing Putin's regime to stay in power.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    So? why should I care about supporters of Putin's regime. Hopefully at least through suffering they might learn something.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    We just want to prevent Putin's regime from invading neighbor countries, how does it make us monsters? :D
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Sure it does, if you're a neocolonial idiot who has not paid attention to how every attempt as regime change by the West has led to tragedy and mass suffering.Streetlight

    I don't care if there happens a 'mass suffering' in Russia, as long as their nukes are removed.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Why? Swapping Putin with Khodorkovski or Navalniy and having him exchange nukes for food aid sounds like a good idea.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Half-dead murderous old men don't seem to really have an issue ruling anywhere one turns.Streetlight

    Time isn't on their side.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    A precondition for resuming trade and dropping sanctions will be an end to hostilities not regime change.Benkei

    Most world leaders said they don't want the regime to resume those hostilities in a couple of years. Also I don't see how Putin's regime could survive after ending hostilities, i.e. giving Crimea back.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Does Putin look like a young energetic leader who has decades ahead? Or more like a very sick old man, who would be gone shortly in one way or the other?

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  • Ukraine Crisis
    Tell me another fairy tale. We will trade with autocratic regimes if this is economically expedient.Benkei

    If the west is sanctioning Putin's Russia already, why do you assume it would lift those sanctions if Putin is replaced by an equal nutjob from his immediate circle?

    Also oil and gas hugely depends on the infrastructure, i.e. pipeline, trade routs, etc. that's is one of the reasons it took and still is taking Europe so long to stop using Putin's gas. But once new infrastructure is in place and the old one is decommissioned, there's pretty much no coming back.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    I’d like to prevent WWIII. So to answer my own question: yes.Xtrix

    Have you looked at battlefield map lately? Ukrainians are kicking ass even before getting any lendlease weapons. So what WWIII are you talking about?

    And yes, there is a flaw in your logic, because according to it the most crazy dictator can get his hands on a nuke and rule the world by threatening to blow it up.

    You might want to listen to this speech
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY&t=1435s
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Anyways, it seems that the best solution would be demilitarization and denacification of Russian. So after Putin and his regime has gone, the west would agree to trade with Russia only after a liberal democracy in installed there.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    So, perhaps we shouldn't be contributing to higher likelihoods of war to begin with and when there is war think about how to extricate ourselves from itBenkei

    So what do you mean, let Putin take over Ukraine? How's about the Baltic, Poland? All Europe?

    Anyways, reading the news from the front line it seems that Ukraine is doing pretty good and will win anyway, only without American weapons it might take some month longer and cost a few thousand lives more.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    When some people don't want to aid Ukraine, here's a picture that comes to mind.
    Once again, if you don't want to send howitzers to Ukraine, chances are you will be sending troops to Poland.

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