how can thoughts associate? — J
That reminds me of the way the parts of a single sentence gain meaning relative to one another, even though it's expressed sequentially. — frank
Woke is … with no real solutions besides rioting. — Fire Ologist
subjectivity emerges as the culmination of processes of aesthetic enunciation. An aesthetic reconfiguration of experience incorporates elements of the unconscious subjectivity, which operates beyond conscious intention. — Number2018
aesthetics …represents a broader mode of subjectivation that occupies a central place in the dynamics of contemporary capitalism. — Number2018
under capitalist conditions, where novel forms of expression and recognition are constantly negotiated. — Number2018
That’s brand — praxis
Woke just is Satan. … farting woke gas all over their students. … and their rotten students melted and disintegrated. … Glory be... — Baden
irony of ironies — Baden
There never will be an end of woke, it's the history of the fucking world... "we don't like X so fucking kill it!" — DifferentiatingEgg
You can’t wish away real, entrenched differences in outlook and ways of life separating one community from another by blaming them on the nefarious influence of some powerful individual. That’s insulting to persons and communities who rely on forging their own value system as a compass for guiding their life and making sense of their world. — Joshs
it’s the polarized cultural environment — Joshs
in America rapists are treated better than trans — unenlightened
reason why it is woke other than having a transwoman in it — Mijin
but the culture war is fully last man standing in a puddle of piss. That I get. — praxis
“the woke see advertising beer as a perfectly reasonable place to teach their ideological lessons."
This phrasing, which conflates ‘the woke,’ corporate advertising, and the political left more generally, collapses distinct ideas into a single caricature and reflects partisan rhetoric more than independent analysis. — praxis
Trans-Übermensch. — praxis
is the solution here simply that transpeople should not be allowed on TV? — Mijin
You’ve been claiming that I haven’t reflected. — praxis
I quoted you directly and analyzed the substance and phrasing, pointing out how it reflects partisan rhetoric. I’ve reflected partisan rhetoric in this thread as well. I don’t know why it would be difficult for anyone to admit doing this. — praxis
The woke see that identity politics and victimization of certain classes are everywhere and systemic. And so the woke see advertising beer as a perfectly reasonable place to teach their ideological lessons. To the woke, Wokeness is top of mind and systemically in front of everyone everywhere anyway. (That’s why they so quickly found issues with the AE ad too.) — Fire Ologist
not to cherry pick the most outrageous comments that one can find and try to represent these as the common goal of that side. Because … then we fall into the trap of thinking that people are either "woke" or then "MAGA". — ssu
it's the leftist distorted caricature of the conservative right that portrays the right being against equal rights for women and against homosexuality. — ssu
Hence it simply is time for us to put these travesties aside and really look what in general the political sides are saying — ssu
attempt at identity politics — praxis
Again, you are not reflecting on wokeism.
— Fire Ologist
I know you've said that before and I've ignored it. You have my attention now if you'd like to explain how I'm failing to reflect on Wokeism. — praxis
Anheuser-Busch is in the business of selling beer to make money, not of teaching ideological lessons—casting its marketing decisions as ideologically motivated is a partisan rhetorical move, not a serious analysis. — praxis
I wonder if Fire Ologist and others will acknowledge how much they’ve been influenced by the MAGA anti-woke movement. — praxis
Whether the future and our plans warp the mind is contingent upon your Theory of Everything, aka your perspective. — Paula Tozer
it's 'woke' because it was a cynical attempt at identity politics for sales point percentage by Bud Light. It has (almost) nothing to do with the simple fact that Dylan is trans and advertising beer. — AmadeusD
I still do not understand what you are saying. — Banno
Language only involves interpreting utterances?
— Fire Ologist
No. Why did you choose to include the word "only"? Language involves interpreting utterances. — Banno
I think the undercurrent to all of this (and metaphysics generally) is indeed the search for definition, in the sense of the ability to see what is. When reduced to textbook examples for pedagogical purposes, it seems straightforward, but in real life, it's often considerably more difficult. — Wayfarer
why do you raise the interpreter?
— Fire Ologist
Becasue language inherently involves interpreting utterances.
I'm sorry, I wasn't able to see what you were saying. — Banno
I'd be happy to help reinstate essence. — Banno
essences are the metaphysical reality, and definitions are the signification of that reality (the signification of the quiddity). — Count Timothy von Icarus
I don't see what it is doing anymore. It just seems like a pointless field of study - trivial, redundant, not informative, not interesting in light of my perspective on the world. — Apustimelogist
So if I throw a pair of dice, snake-eyes is in potential. Let's say snake-eyes shows up in actuality when the dice land. Where is an example of essence in this? — frank
Different things interact in different but reliable ways. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Are you saying the essence of a my dog, Bee, is her DNA? — frank
You left out the interpreter. — Banno
I do not think that there must be a set of properties that are necessary and sufficient to set out what it is for something to be a cat. I have consistently argued, using material from both Wittgenstein and Quine, that we use such word despite there not being such a set of properties. — Banno
I take effective language use as granted — Banno
To me, essences just seems like an easy way of being over-reductive about things in the world when often we can't even characterize what we are talking about in a way that is unambiguous, precise, unique, informative enough to deserve the name "essence". The whole thing seems completely redundant. — Apustimelogist
I take effective language use as granted — Banno
no one here is saying cats don't exist. — Apustimelogist
Final causality is probably the most relevant issue, not signification. — Count Timothy von Icarus
The problem with dogma is that no one but the absolute authority can disagree with it. — praxis
Think on this a bit, if you will. It carried the very point Wittgenstein and others have made against essences.
You choose to ignore the fact that we ubiquitously use words without having at hand an essence. — Banno
We just don't need essences to get on. They are a philosopher's invention. — Banno
Simpler to just say that some individuals are cats. — Banno
essences are not about language or signification, except inasmuch that the former explains the causes of the latter (e.g., disparate cultures all developed a word for "ant" because there are ants). This is the same mistake your article makes, assuming that essences are entirely about philosophy of language. — Count Timothy von Icarus
frouonandnsecualnorietstiin — Fire Ologist
how old-time religion’s archaic values are the force behind the scenes for an authoritarian regime, and how confused the good citizens of that nation are when they try to tease out the knots of how it crept up on them and usurped their version of reality.
It's deeply disturbing to see siblings against siblings, — Paula Tozer
In fact, religion warps the mind of those who must operate within its confines. — Paula Tozer
What I experience is people settling on what appeals to them aesthetically and culturally (often through upbringing ) so it’s contingent. Reasoning often seems post hoc.
An obvious response is: ‘If all is contingent, then there’s no right or wrong, and how can one view (mine for instance) be superior to another?’ But contingency only describes how values arise, not whether we can evaluate them. — Tom Storm
I tend to go more with a rights approach (I don't ground rights in humility or any brand of ultimate truth, just pragmatically) — Tom Storm
hope for a form of humility: or at least a lack of dogmatism and arrogance, — Tom Storm
But it seems you can never quite say what "catness" is. — Banno
look instead to the use. — Banno
Another difficulty with ignoring substances — Count Timothy von Icarus
Essence is the meaning of a word that might be compiled from an analysis of all of the uses of a word - if we quantify and collect all of the uses of a word and find its mean use, we’d hold the essence.
— Fire Ologist
What does this even mean? — Hanover
you need to explain what the essence is. — MoK
A being is something that objectively exists and has a set of properties and abilities. — MoK
the Mulveney campaign was overtly woke. In your opinion, was the Mulveney campaign humble or self-aggrandizing? Did it respect diversity or demean gender? — praxis
patterns — wonderer1
This doesn't suggest that you are willing to consider — wonderer1
The recognition you have, of the patterns you recognize is a characteristic of your mind rather than a recognition of something essential to things — wonderer1