If you say that everything is matter
Someone can ask: As opposed to what?
You have to answer this question, because if you don't, then the only thing you're saying is: 'everything is what everything is'
But once you do answer - 'Matter as opposed to [the other thing]'
Then the question is: how do we understand what [the other thing] is?
Now you have to explain how matter produces an understanding of something other than matter.
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If you say that everything is Mind
Someone can ask: As opposed to what?
You have to answer this question, because if you don't, then the only thing you're saying is: 'everything is what everything is'
But once you do answer - 'Mind as opposed to [the other thing]'
Then the question is: how do we understand what [the other thing] is?
Now you have to explain how mind produces an understanding of something other than mind. — csalisbury
When we think of time, we apply the synthetic principle of grasping ceaseless changing – one needs to grasp the changes in the thought, to exit their flow for some instant. Similar thinking has been exercised for understanding the essence of God.God is understood to be changeless, and therefore timeless, but God is also understood to be the creator of time.
If God creates the physical world along with time, then God experiences a change - from existing alone to existing along with time. — Walter Pound
This approach has perpetuated the vicious circle - sufferingthe psychological response to trauma is a defensive splitting, and the divided selves are mutually antagonistic — unenlightened
Spain, my country, is suffering a coup d´etat supported directly by Soros (who met in secret our "president" in La Moncloa), — DiegoT
Sorry for being vague. I tried to point out that quite often what I think, feel, and percept has indeed been induced and enforced by external socio-cultural forces; and, in most cases, I do not recognize it. Further, under these circumstances, it can be challenging to practice Stoicism in its classical form. I may think that the most intimate parts of myself are under my control, but actually, they are not.It's possible, though, to distinguish what I think, feel and do as a part of the world from other parts of the world. — Ciceronianus the White
I was struck by the following fragment from Marcus Aurelius’ Meditations:how do you strike a balance between the internal conflict dwelling within and the external day-to-day issues, sturm und drang, — Wallows
As far as I know, even Epictetus encouraged his pupils to be actively engaged in theNo, Seneca and Marcus Aurelius, we're not "Lame Stoics", however, Epictetus literally was. I speak of just the "apatheia", characteristic of Stocism, which is actually encouraged by the Stoics. — Wallows
"indifference" (the central theme of Stoicism) — Wallows
Well, it depends on what's meant by awareness. A computer program could be said to be aware of its inputs. A simulation of perceptual awareness could be built into a robot.
That's different from having a conscious perception. — Marchesk
Anyway, you are aware of your perceptions. So, what is this awareness, if not consciousness?I accept that direct realism is the case when perception is non-conscious. I'm driving down the road on autopilot. My hands, eyes and ears are directly perceiving the environment as I successfully navigate the car down the road. — Marchesk
As was pointed out in many responses of this thread, we cannot change the course of the internet development since it has reached the point of no return. And, as numerous previous revolutionary inventions, it brings us both advantages and disadvantages. In addition to already mentioned points, the radical novelty of the internet has also been based on the construction of the interaction interface that modeling, enforcing, sustaining, and modulating the whole complexes of human behavior. Using many sites or programs, one must ultimately follow the previously designed patterns and algorithms, interacting with and programming one’s cognitive, perceptual, and volitional reactions. Probably, these tendencies will be further augmented by the intensive AI development. Of course, we benefit from and enjoy the continually growing effectiveness, convenience, and productivity. Yet, aren’t we able to find behind the conventional interface the cybernetic and informational machines’ networks, interacting not with a particular internet user, but with a set of non-individuated intelligence, affects, sensations, cognition, and memory?We get the answers we seek instantly, we keep up with friends without speaking to them, we get the news as it happens, we watch loops of videos an algorithm chose for us, we click once and get any product in the world delivered to our doorsteps in less than two days.
Less friction means more time spent, more ads seen, more sales made. Tech companies lose customers during login screens and security verification, and as a result of slow load times. The country’s top computer science talent is paid billions of dollars to further reduce the milliseconds of delay separating our desires and their fulfillment. — Brian Jones
There are so many clichés and banalities about the internet – to your points, it is possible to add that there has been an ongoing and free exchange of ideas, technologies, and knowledge (in fact, you need to pay for all these). That the internetIs it not time to consider the possibility that the internet, like Freud’s airplane and Bell’s long-distance feeling, might in fact not be bringing us closer together (etc.), but only pretending to, and in the end doing quite the opposite? — Brian Jones
To stopwe must stop being informed and start forming well, again? — Brian Jones
The entire concept of identity politics has still been based on the notions of ideology, rationally behaving political actors (groups or individuals), and political representation. Haven’t we already seen the failure of this theoretical scheme in Fukuyama’s “ End of the History”? Yet, Fukuyama himself has not cared about choosing different concepts. One could find out that the politics of identities has based on the same theoretical base as the notion of populism and Steve Bannon’s thesis and narrative that “The future of Western politics is populist, not liberal”. Yet, both should be explained using more fundamental and appropriate concepts.The basic question here is if Fukuyama is correct about identity politics or is this identity politics more of a media talking point than a change in political reality? — ssu
You say two contradictory things - or at least two things which appear to be in tension. On the one hand, you seem to claim that discourses involving certain words, and things featuring in our forms of life, interact with one another. That's not surprising, since the way we talk and what we do are intimately related. How I think and talk about chairs partly determines what I do with chairs; what I do with chairs partly determined how I think and talk about chairs. But on the other hand, you claim there is an "abyss" between the two. — Welkin Rogue
The “things” have their own form – the state of things, or all actually existing separate bodies with their use, means of production, use, dispose of, etc. So, the word chair, as well as I, have been used simultaneously in two separate registers.
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Is 'thing' just the ordinary sense of 'thing' here? What does it add to say ""things" have their own form"?
What are the two registers of use for the word 'chair'? — Welkin Rogue
I am struggling to make sense of the distinction that seems to be assumed in such remarks between matters of language and matters of fact, as it is sometimes put. So again, I ask, what does it mean to be interested in (or to investigate) X, rather than in the meaning of ‘X’? Or to be talking about X, rather than talking about the meaning of ‘X’? — Welkin Rogue
There is a linguistic theory proposed by Louis Hjelmslev and developed furtherThe mysterious version of the <self> concept doesn’t refer not because there is nothing in the world that satisfies its conditions, but because its conditions are unspecified! — Welkin Rogue
One of the definitions I use when referencing what's an objective fact, for example, is that which is mind-independent. This definition doesn't cover every use of the word, but generally covers a large swath of uses. — Sam26
It would be a mistake to represent acquiring language by babies as the result of fulfilling a recognized need. (Does a child grows up because she wants to become an adult?) And, in the first stages, the acquired language is too weak to serve as a simple mean of communication. So, your point is just a simplifying presentation of the real process of acquiring language as well as the use of language by adults. Yet, you are right that the existence of preverbal self is an absolutely necessary condition. The preverbal self possesses self-awareness and means of communicating with others. A non-verbal child or adult can be aware of her inner states and differentiate them from other minds, as well as inform them through gestures, facial expressions, etc. So, what is the main difference between a non-verbal awareness and mediated by language consciousness? Verbalized thinking, or so-called inner speech does not necessary have explicated grammatical and syntactic structure.You can only find a language useful if you already are aware of your self as seperate from others and that others have seperate minds need to be informed of something that you know but they don't. When we realize that other people have minds too, we find language useful. — Harry Hindu
Language doesn't make us self aware. It allows us to express what is already there. It allows us to express ourselves in greater detail and with better efficiency than simply using hand signals and noises. — Harry Hindu
Definitely, babies have kind of selfhood before learning a language. Psychologists even differentiate few different selves, acquired by a preverbal child. Accordingly, we can propose the existence of various kinds of self-awareness. Yet, it would be a mistake to underestimatewe have selfhood prior to learning a language. Words and grammar simply allow us to use shared symbols to refer to what is already there. — Harry Hindu
It looks like you try to represent one particular moment in human history as the universal one. In the vast majority of known cultures “awareness of self as an individual actor” never existed. It is a relatively new Western invention.Individuals can now learn to take the collective social view of the psychological fact of their own existence as "conscious beings". Awareness of self is awareness of self as an individual actor within a collective social setting.
But every language serves that purpose. — apokrisis
Even in our individualistic culture, acquiring language and saying I do not necessarily mean that self automatically begin possessing mirroring – spectating qualities. No doubt, that “I” is socially generated and effectuated, but the equation “I am the other” should never be taken for granted.We say, there "I" go, experiencing certain qualia, having certain thoughts, feeling certain things.
Our mentality shifts up to a sociocultural level where everything is happening to a spectating self - a self that is understood as a contrast to the collective. We now see ourselves living in a world of the like-minded, and so see ourselves as "one of that kind of thing". — apokrisis
understand what that means for the relationship between consciousness and language. — Harry Hindu
Daniel Stern in his book The Interpersonal World of the Infant proposed a theory of emerging Self and related states of developing consciousness -Is a new-born baby conscious? — Tim3003
There are different states of consciousness, where individuals are able to do well withoutwithout language that is the limit of our capabilities. — Tim3003
Now that I think about it, to drive the point home, one might even consider taking into account the subjectivity of a cooperation, or the subjectivity of a state: what is the range of action of a state? — StreetlightX
The “old,” personifying discourse (roles, subjects, objects, etc.) has not been appropriate today. Nevertheless, intersubjective, conscious relations have not entirely disappeared; they have been transformed and incorporated into contemporary subjectivities.Subjectivities are more than roles, they become integrated capacities of a person which are exercised in how they live their life. — fdrake
Is that possible to try to broaden farther the notion of trauma to explain child’s integration into pedagogical institutions? When a child for the first time brought to a kindergarten, she finds herself in the entirely new environment, has been forced to adjust her behavior and habits to a set of institutional norms and rules. Outside of her house and family, she has been learned new ways of talking and playing with her peers, as well as expressing her concerns and interacting with pedagogical staff. This transition is quite challenging, and a failure to adapt causes a series of corrective disciplinary interventions. Nevertheless, it would be incorrect to attribute the notion of trauma a status of a general explanatory principle. Disciplinary and panoptic spaces and institutions do not play anymore a unique and privileged role in forming and in-forming subjectivities. There is no outer space or position, out of which one could isolate processes of subjectivization. If subjectivities are indiscernible from our social and living environments and actually proceed avoiding conscious representations, the new thought and philosophy are required.Their habits and personality were formed in the wake of their trauma, and only later did it catch up to them; when they felt things were normal, and suddenly they were not.
I would suggest that similar things happen even with walking, seeing a child playing in traffic produces an involuntary response; run to help or freeze in terror. This is because we know the norms and know the dangers... But not just know or feel or experience, we only have those attitudes because we live in way which affords them. — fdrake
So, the novel isn't eternal. The Elizabethans didn't write novels. Other forms had popular preeminence--verse and drama.
What cultural forms will be most celebrated in 20 years is uncertain, let alone what will be most celebrated 200 years from now. Who in 1940 would have anticipated the beat movements of the 1950s? Or the 'psychedelic art' of the 1960s? What will the state of (big C) Cinema be in 20 years?
Cultural Cassandras are always wringing their hands and bemoaning the decline of [music], [art], [manners], [writing], [you name it]. With some justification, of course. Culture, like a glacier, is always declining. It always heading down and ending up in the sea. But at the other end it's always being renewed. — Bitter Crank
It could be more productive to narrow down an overinflated field of contemporary psychology to attempt to trace the genealogy of psychoanalysis and psychotherapy. A scene,The judgments psychology make determines the individual and precede all experience.
How could a knowledge attain that status? — Blue Lux
it seems to me that scientific knowledge is based on certain postulates and premises of which are supposed to be capable of giving one insight into the nature of the human, but these premises are saturated by the same very human intentions they lay claim to. It seems that psychology has no foundation, but rather that the foundation is set apart in its own, according to its own set of rules, namely the understanding of human intention, drive, volition, etc, which are fundamentally centered around univeral human experiences and desires. These aspects of the human are premised, and the unintelligibility of their metaphysical constitution is rendered obsolete. This is precisely what Nietzsche speaks of. A seeing through the abyss and overcoming Man. — Blue Lux
As far as I see it, Kierkegaard’s tremendous effort and genius, aimedCan you explain Kierkegaard's conception of Xhristianity? — Blue Lux
It is a common sense definition. One could apply it to Nietzsche himself, or to Dostoevsky or Kafka’s heroes,(are they narcissists?)The narcissist is who assumes himself too much significance — Blue Lux
It is possible to attempt to apply some of Kierkegaard’sIs there a philosophy that can firmly, for instance, characterize someone as narcissistic? — Blue Lux
It would be a mistake to represent philosophy vs. psychology relations anthropomorphically: patronage, partnership, divorce, and competition; experimental philosophy and existential psychology show that they are much more complicated.The rift between psychology and philosophy is now distinct. Is it? — Blue Lux
Psychology completes what philosophy cannot, which is, define the individual. Psychology objectifies the human as an objective fact. This is the greatest leap in logic. It is true, is it not? It is true that we are an objective fact... But nothing could designate this by virtue of reason or logic alone. — Blue Lux
Nevertheless, one could argue that “intentions of psychology” are quite the opposite to “objectifying of Man," converting human being into a scientific fact.Intention. The intention of a psychology has as its object something philosophy can never base. — Blue Lux
