I'm glad we have come to at least a partial agreement,
. Since you have granted that descriptions are not sufficient for an account of the semantics of proper names, you have also granted that names are not abbreviated descriptions. So we made some progress! Now, I don't think descriptions are
necessary, either. Suppose I am perceptually aware of a person, and I decide on a whim to call that person "Jay". Notice that there's no description involved in the act of fixing the reference for "Jay", only a perceptual acquaintance. Perhaps I daydream about Jay a lot (out loud), and, later, people may pick up the name from me, and also wonder many things about Jay. But there was never any description attached to the name, only a perceptual link (in my case). Of course, a description could at any time
be attached to the name, but, in this scenario, it
has not been so attached; Kripke's idea is not that the historical chain of reference
precludes descriptions (it obviously does not), only that they are not necessary.
So how does this feed into the idea of communal practices? You ask me if the communal practices do not consist in a network of stories we tell ourselves. I'd say no, it does not consist merely in this. Of course, these stories are
part of the practice, but they do not exhaust it. One other practice is the practice of
tracking down objects throughout time (and other possible worlds), and the linguistic counterpart to this is our use of names. In other words, describing, or narrating stories, is only part of our linguistic practice; referring is another.
Now, this may sound like a triviality: we use names to (rigidly) refer to objects. So what? That is the gist of what I take to be
's remarks. I think this is a bit unfair, at least in historical terms: before Kripke (and Føllesdal, among others), the semantics of proper names was really muddied. This confusion was partially responsible for Quine's attacks on modal logic, and after we understood clearly how names worked, this allowed us to also get clear on the semantics of modal logic, which in turn allowed us to ask more precise metaphysical questions, etc. But this may all be part of the "quasi-scientific" endeavor which Luke is (apparently) disparaging. How does this connect to our linguistic practice? Wasn't all this already answered in the later Wittgenstein's work, anyway?
Personally, I'm unimpressed with Wittgenstein, here. Sure, he has many interesting remarks on language, but we don't want merely remarks, we want a full-fledged theory. And, for obvious reasons, one will never get a full-fledged theory out of Wittgenstein. Kripke, on the other hand, opened the doors for the phenomenon of direct reference, thus allowing for full-fledged treatment of other directly referential expressions, such as demonstratives and indexicals (see Kaplan's work). He also managed to sharply, and correctly, separate
semantic issues from
pragmatic issues (granted, this was done more in "Speaker's Reference and Semantic Reference"), as well as semantic issues from
epistemic issues, giving a plausible account of how this separation worked. This relieved semantics from the burden of giving intellectualist accounts of meanings (in Frege's vein, for example, to which Frege's Puzzle is central), which in turn allowed it to concentrate on what is relevant, namely truth-conditions. Or so I would say.
Note that has nothing to do with essential attributes or whatever. As is well-known, Kripke
also defends in
Naming and Necessity a (controversial) theory of essential properties. But this
builds upon the semantic theory, so the semantic theory is independent of it. That is, it's not necessary (and not sufficient, either, for the matter) for the semantic theory to work that objects have essential attributes (well, aside from trivial ones such as "being self-identical" or "being such that either it is P or it is not P"). To see this, note that there are modal systems (Fine's S5H) which adopt Kripke's treatment of proper names as rigid designators, but in which there are no essential attributes aside from the trivial ones. This is important, since an early (Quinean) confusion about modal logic was that it was committed to some form of "invidious Aristotelian essentialism", which is definitely not the case.
Finally, one last observation. Unlike what seems to be claimed by
, the notion of reference developed by Kripke (and others, such as Føllesdal)
does not involve causality, as I said in my first post on this thread. I'm pretty sure that Kripke would
deny that causality must be involved, since he countenances reference to abstract objects, which by definition exert no causal powers (and in fact, I remember reading somewhere---perhaps in a footnote to Kaplan's "Demonstratives" or "Afterthoughts"---that, when asked, Kripke explicitly denied that his was a causal theory of reference). According to Føllesdal, the first to propose a causal theory of reference was Gareth Evans, in his "The Causal Theory of Names". Unfortunately, Evans (modestly) presented his theory as an extension of Kripke's, and so many people mistook his theory for Kripke's. But that is a mistake. There need be no causality involved in Kripke's account.