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  • Your Favourite Philosophical Books
    In no order:

    A Short History of Decay by Emil Cioran
    The Trouble With Being Born by Emil Cioran
    Ethics by Spinoza
    Freedom as Development by Amartya Sen
    Joyful Cruelty by Clement Rosset
    Nihil Unbound by Ray Brassier
  • Poll: Religious adherence on this forum
    Raised Jewish, been an atheist for about 13 years
  • Why are Christians opposed to abortion?
    If the Holy Spirit is present during intercourse, does that mean all acts of sex are threesomes?

    Anyway, I've only glanced at the comments in this thread...is anyone participating actually pro-life here? What's interesting to me is that despite accusations that abortion is murder, why isn't childbirth by extension torture? Why would God make it painful? Why does stillbirth occur in 1 out of 160 pregnancies?
  • Nihilism and Horror Philosophy
    I wouldn't include Rick and Morty under the placard of "Horror Philosophy". There are, undoubtedly, similarities, such as the stance that life is meaningless and purposeless, etc., but Rick and Morty takes a comedic approach rather than one of traumatic horror. I think a TV show that better encapsulates Horror Philosophy would be True Detective (at least the first season).
  • Currently Reading
    Peeling Potatoes or Grinding Lenses: Spinoza and Young Wittgenstein Converse on Immanence and Its Logic by Aristides Baltas
  • Natural Law, Rights, and the USA's Social Contract
    I dont like modern design, it looks to me like just another post-truth simplification.ernestm

    That's a pretentious way of saying nothing, but whatever floats your boat.
  • 'Panpsychism is crazy, but it’s also most probably true'
    Undoubtedly one of the most poorly argued articles I've seen from Aeon
  • Natural Law, Rights, and the USA's Social Contract
    2002 called and it wants its website design back
  • The Implication of Social Contract on Social Relations
    Hobbesian, and Lockean Contractarianism, as a conceptual political framework, entails sacrificing individual "natural" rights, because it presumes that human nature, when left to its own devices, would produce chaos. Therefore, a government would be required to mitigate and control these excesses. Implicit to this view, is that government is distinct from human nature.

    This distinction between government and human nature was anathema to Spinoza and, later, Diderot and other thinkers of the Republican Democratic persuasion, who, while agreeing with the Contractarianists that it was in humanity's best interest to join together to form a government (albeit a republican one, contra Hobbes), argued that such a socio-political configuration was an extension of human nature, rather than apart from it.

    What is correct in schopenhauer's opening analysis, is that, assuming a Contractarianism framework, it would be perfectly acceptable for individuals or minority groups to sacrifice their rights or their "nature" (think LBGTQ, or religious or ethical minorities) in order to maintain a wider group cohesion. This is how Locke is able to argue for intra-toleration between Christian sects only, rather than wider, full toleration that includes Jews, Atheists, and other religious minorities, as Spinoza argued for.
  • The world is the totality of facts.
    If the world is the totality of perception (i.e. mind-dependent) as opposed to fact (i.e. mind-independent) than the world began, so to speak, at the advent of consciousness, which is absurd.
  • The world is the totality of facts.
    I would say that the world is the totality of perceptionHeister Eggcart

    Facts are a knowledge construct, even though they are about the world. But they are not the world, as if facts could exist independent of any minds.Marchesk

    Nonsense solipsism
  • Meet Ariel
    Ariel just wants to be part of your world
  • What is consciousness?
    According to neuroscientist and quasi-philosopher, Antonio Damasio, consciousness is self-awareness + awareness of one's environment (i.e. immediate surroundings).
  • Embracing depression.
    What's wrong with being depressed?Question

    The only thing "wrong" with depression, is that in many of it's forms, it's temporary, ameliorable or curable as is highly evident by numerous (if not most) cases in which it manifests. Otherwise, and ultimatum, what is "right" about depression it is simply the acknowledgement of the "disenchantment of the world". Perhaps this is best expressed by the Hungarian philosopher, László F. Földényi, who argues that there is a dichotomy (but not diremption) between depression, which is medicinal, vs. melancholy, which is an existential weltanschauung
  • Political Spectrum Test
    For whatever reason I can't upload the photo, but I am very Left Libertarian
  • Currently Reading
    The Sixth Extinction by Elizabeth Kolbert
    The Second Treatise of Government by John Locke
  • Currently Reading
    What Is Populism? by Jan-Werner Muller
  • Currently Reading
    Glad you are enjoying it. If you find those subjects intellectually appealing, you might also enjoy Black Mass and Straw Dogs by John N. Gray
  • Philosophyforums.com refugees
    I had just turned 20 when I joined the original PF and now I'm nearly 27 :-O
  • Philosophyforums.com refugees
    Hey @dclements I joined about two weeks ago for the same reason as yourself.
  • Why I think God exists.
    Therefore, scientifically speaking God must exist by virtue of the multitudinous effects God has on us humans.TheMadFool

    Textbook example of circular reasoning
  • Currently Reading
    I've only just started, about 100 pages in. I've read the two previous works in Israel's Enlightenment Trilogy,Radical Enlightenment and Enlightenment Contested, and loved them both, so I have no doubt this will be of similar high standard work.
  • Currently Reading
    Democratic Enlightenment: Philosophy, Revolution, and Human Rights 1750-1790 by Jonathon Israel
  • An Epistemic Argument for Conservativism
    The argument is highly flawed as it ignores asymmetries of power within such populations whereby the elites may act to preserve and perpetuate "traditions" that are intolerable for other population segments. Unenlightened mentioned Slavery, and I would also mention that Monarchy is older than Republicanism, and Feudalism older than Capitalism.
  • "Comfortable Pessimism"
    Is that book any good? I heard you're re-reading it. I was thinking of picking it up.darthbarracuda

    Dienstag's book is excellent. Highly recommend it.

    I mentioned Leopardi because I'm currently reading The Philosophy of Disenchantment by Edgar Saltus, and Saltus spends almost an entire chapter talking about Leopardi's life and how he, at least for a while, intentionally isolated himself from everyone else, and thought the only duty one had was to oneself: "be true to oneself".darthbarracuda

    I am not familiar with Status' book, but he is correct that Leopardi was a withdrawn figure. He was also a sickly man, and physically frail, which also heavily contributed to his isolated nature. However, I think there is a noticeable contrast between his views on leading an active life, versus, say Rousseau or Cioran.
  • What is false about an atheistic view on death?
    Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a God. It says nothing about what happens after death.
  • Hello!
    Better late than never ;)
  • Most Over-rated Philosopher
    I liked him when I was first reading philosophy (so about 7 years ago now), and over time my good opinion of him has faded.
  • Hello!
    I'm not going to get into a detailed debate over it, but the way this forum is laid out reminds me of watching a video on Youtube that was filmed vertically. Given the dimensions of my laptop, the way the commenting is laid out is simply jarring to me. I am not aware of any other forum or website that features a similar design. I was by the way, taught Design, including website Design in College.

    Too bad 180 Proof and BusyCuttingCrap didn't stick around. Maybe they will come out of retirement some day.
  • Hello!
    Personally, I think the layout is very bland, and there is also a lot of unused space. Granted, it does look a lot better on Mobile, but I usually use Desktop when writing on forums. Wouldn't mind user profile pics being bigger either, but all that is just my 2 cents.

    I also miss the approval or disapproval ratings.

    Also where is 180 Proof?
  • "Comfortable Pessimism"
    Though I don't agree with much of your characterization or the usage of non-neutral terms such as "comfortable" or "convenient", what you are discussing reminds me of Joshua Foa Dienstag's thesis in his excellent work, Pessimism: Philosophy, Ethic, Spirit which delineates the common themes and minor divergences between prominent Pessimists from Rousseau to Unamuno. Part of Dienstag's project is how Pessimism can and has been used as a foundation for political action, and while he himself doesn't provide an appellation to either categories, he nevertheless separates the Pessimists into two groups of what may be described as "Active Pessimism" vs. "Inactive Pessimism" in a strictly political sense.

    For Dienstag, Active Pessimists include Leopardi, Freud and Camus, while Inactive Pessimists include Rousseau, Schopenhauer, and Cioran. I'm actually surprised that you would group Leopardi with the latter considering that Leopardi writes positively about taking action despite the unhappiness often generated by it. He uses the figure of Christopher Columbus as an exemplar of one who took action despite the risks it involved.

    Given the descriptions you provide, I would have to argue that you don't exactly understand the thinking behind Pessimism. For any pessimist, the inaction of a 'Comfortable Pessimist" wouldn't lead to a self-fulfilling prophecy of human suffering because human suffering would be unavoidable regardless of any action taken. Likewise, for the "Active Pessimist", there can be no "prescription to end the problem once and for all", as that assumes a linear ending to history which betrays a foundational pillar of Pessimism. An Active Pessimist may attempt to mitigate or eradicate gratuitous forms of human suffering, but would need to acknowledge that such attempts can fail, or that such problems can always return during or after the lifetime of the Pessimist.
  • Hello!
    Very good to be seeing you all again!

    The old forums layout was more of a standard internet forum layout, so it was simply easier to navigate. This layout is pretty unusual to me.
  • Hello!
    Good to "see" you all again!
  • Most Over-rated Philosopher
    Slavoj Zizek
    Ayn Rand
    Heidegger
  • Why is social conservatism generally associated with religion?
    I have not read the entire thread, so please forgive me if this has been covered, but I think it needs to be clarified as to which religion(s) is generally associated with social conservatism (assuming we are looking at this question through an American-lens). Most Jews, for example, lean liberal. Indeed for the last 100 years of US elections, Jews have overwhelmingly voted for the Democratic nominee.

    However, if we focus on Christianity in particular, and its association with modern social conservatism, then this alliance has been well documented in the book One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America by Kevin Kruse. Kruse delineates the emergence of Conservative Christianity as a form of propaganda orchestrated by the business class during the 1930s in order to vilify and vitiate FDRs New Deal, which the business class saw as a threat towards Capitalism. FDR often used religious symbolism and direct quotes from scripture as apologia for the New Deal, and the worried business class sought to appropriate Christianity as a pro-Capitalist religion, and utilized the help of prominent preachers to help do so.

    There is really nothing "inherent" in religion that would cause it to lean socially liberal or socially conservative in their modern day political implications. The current association is simply the result of about 90 years of business propaganda. Interestingly however, many modern businesses do seem to lean towards social liberalism at least as a PR move (e.g. Kellog's refusal to advertise on Breitbart, or various companies celebrating gay pride etc.)
  • Currently Reading
    Usually I do my annual reading roundup, but in the last 6 months I haven't been keeping track since I would normally write it down in the currently reading thread of the old forum. From what I can remember, here is what I read in 2016:

    Pessimism: Philosophy, Ethics, Spirit by Joshua Foa Dienstag (reread)
    The Guide For The Perplexed by Moses Maimonides
    Operette Morali by Giacomo Leopardi
    Socialism After Hayek by Theodore Burczak
    History and Utopia by Cioran (reread)
    Nihil Unbound by Ray Brassier (reread)
    Vibrant Matter: A Political Ecology of Things by Jane Bennett
    Open Closed Open by Yehuda Amichai
    The Fall Into Time by Cioran
    The Lord of the Rings by Tolkien (reread)
    The Great Transformation by Karl Polanyi
    Melancholy by Laszlo Foldenyi
    Anathemas and Admirations by Cioran
    Identity and Violence by Amartya Sen (reread)
    The White Racial Frame by Joe R. Feagin
    The Market: Ethics, Knowledge and Politics by John O'Neill
    Moby-Dick by Herman Melville (currently reading)
    The Anatomy of Melancholy by Robert Burton (currently reading)
    One Thousand and One Nights (currently reading)