Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson
The Fall of the House of Labor: The Workplace, the State, and American Labor Activism, 1865–1925 by David Montgomery
Trying to finish Phenomenology of Spirit by Hegel

I have to remind myself to watch this this weekend

The president is not a journalist and never has been, so holding him to the same standards as the people who are employed to inform us is stupid at best. — NOS4A2

I agree, presidents should not be expected to inform people. They should be expected to take photos with Goya products, play golf twice a day, and tweet at 3am. That's it.

Watching basketball

Excellent news. One of the founders of Turning Point carked it too. Can't wait till more of these fucks drop dead. — StreetlightX

God I would hate to die this ironically

So can we remove those Federalist judges?

Glad Calabresi realized Trump was a fascist 3 years and 192 days into his presidency.

German Cain Nein Nein Nein

Well Hermain Cain died of coronavirus after most likely contracting it at Trump's Tulsa rally

Historically speaking how have first world countries gotten rid of corruption? — Gitonga

lol

Eric Weinstein and senator Ted Cruz with a moderator Michael Knowles — ssu

:vomit:

It's not confidence in moral fibre but confidence in insufficient support for Trump among servicemen. — Benkei

I think this is more or less correct; it's been well reported that military leadership doesn't think highly of Trump and I think a scaled assault by military against US citizens is a fantasy.

"In your ruins I find shelter."
~Samuel Beckett, from letter to Emil Cioran — 180 Proof

:love:

My guess is that during this 'preparation stage' was the perfect male, who hunted for the perfect female, and their relationship resulted in the big bang.

I don't feel stupid for suggesting this, I feel inept. — opt-ae

alrighty then

It's funny how some people can't realize that "be glad you aren't living 200 years ago" is an extremely stupid defense of present day conditions.

I watched Portrait of a Lady on Fire a few days ago and I still can't stop thinking about it.

All trash, not a single good one

It is no surprise then that his “gardening” is to be delivered through the formal means of social control, enforced by the monopoly of violence, and not through voluntary cooperation. Thus he uses his vast wealth “to build narratives and to pass laws that will require all the other rich people to pay taxes and pay their workers better”, thereby increasing state power at the expense of private property and wealth. — NOS4A2

$15 minimum wage and increasing taxation for some multi-millionaires and billionaires is exactly what Orwell was talking about, absolutely.

How bout McSorley's? — Noble Dust

I've been a few times, it's always the place where the night takes a sharp turn given how cheap the beers are

Listen. If within 48 hours you still can't comprehend why it is necessary for an 8,000+ person study to provide respondents with a definition for a nebulous and controversial term, when asking for their view on it, then there's nothing further I can do to help you out.

Sorry to repeat this, but I don't really understand what is your problem.

If I remember correctly, you yourself gave the example of an Amazon worker leading a protest and then getting fired. Another example would be someone tweeting "all lives matter" and getting fired. Is there really a difference? Isn't it obvious from both examples of how utterly arbitrary the firing of people can be and how insecure employees are in the US? If all it takes what a person has said outside his work and the person gets fired?

Same really goes for the question "is extremism a problem?". The fact that just what extremism isn't mentioned simply cannot be a counterargument if people agree with the notion of extremism being a problem (or not). — ssu

I have no idea what you are talking about anymore, whatever you are saying is so far removed from the initial issue that 'political correctness' isn't even mentioned here.

How about you address your dirtbag cherrypicking? You are dishonest, and when your blatant dishonesty is pointed out you just carry on as if it didnt happen.
You quoted half a sentence, and tried to pass that off as a legitimate point. It wasnt, it was a lie. You are a liar.
You owe ssu an apology, and everyone else as well since you and your dirtbag tactics make discourse more difficult on this forum.
Its staggering how self righteous you are considering how little ethic you show in discussion. Shame on you sir. You are the problem. — DingoJones

Seems then you will have a lot of terms that aren't useful in the aggregate. — ssu

That's why a definition, and other caveats, would have been useful :wink:

but it does say something — ssu

The only reason it can "say something" is because you, or anyone else, have an interpretation of the term, but that doesn't make it useful in aggregate.

So what conclusions do you draw from that bit of data? — fdrake

So basically it doesn't say much — ssu

:clap:

It’s just untrue that political correctness has anything to do with hate speech. — NOS4A2

You can huff and puff all you want but that's ultimately just your opinion.

I bet you and NOS4A2 will surely differ in your views about just what kind of extremism is really the problem, but does that change the real issue? — ssu

Yes, that undeniably changes the issue because then you can't say "80% of respondents agree that extremism is a problem" or any other aggregate judgements, because that binds myself and NOS4A2 together in an unsound and baseless way, since we don't agree on the actual content of the word 'extremism' given definitions that are detached from one another. Likewise, without a given definition of 'political correctness' we have no way of knowing if respondents are aligned in their interpretation of the word or if there are disagreements in its meaning, which is precisely why the article (eventually) states, "But since the survey question did not define political correctness for respondents, we cannot be sure what, exactly, the 80 percent of Americans who regard it as a problem have in mind."

But political correctness was never about hate speech. — NOS4A2

For you. Not everyone has categorically drawn lines between speech that is considered hateful or offensive or just unpleasant and rude, and where political correctness intersects between this and other types insults and expressions, which is why it would have been prudent for the study to have provided a definition, otherwise it allows people like yourself to interpret it in whatever way you want to interpret it, and, in your case specifically, a self-serving way.

People have been speaking about, writing about, and have been warning us about political correctness for decades. Quibble all you need, but I wager most people understand the general sense of the term by now. — NOS4A2

If people are discussing a term over the course of a decade and approaching it from varying angles and perspectives then yeah it would be valuable for the study to provide a working definition to respondents for clarification, especially given that 82% of respondents in this study said that hate speech was a problem.

That's so funny, maw! Oooohhh, a proper defintion of political correctness is not used!!! Oh, that's a foul, a foul cries referee maw. — ssu

I didn't say a "proper definition", I said no definition was provided to those who were surveyed when they were asked a question about it. The article that @NOS4A2 provided even states: "But since the survey question did not define political correctness for respondents, we cannot be sure what, exactly, the 80 percent of Americans who regard it as a problem have in mind."

Do you think a definition would have been useful to provide if, as the survey points out, "82 percent of Americans agree that hate speech is a problem in America today"? Because for some, this would fall under political correctness. Given this, what does it mean when "88% of Native Americans oppose political correctness", do you think each and every Native American surveyed would agree with your meaning, and how do you know that? (I also don't see where in the survey is says 88% of Native Americans oppose political correctness, and it doesn't provide an actual sample size for that group).

"What is positive about Nihilism is the realization that there is nothing to lose...so what are you afraid of?" - Ray Brassier

88% of Native Americans oppose political correctness. — NOS4A2

As I've pointed out to you before, the study in that article doesn't define political correctness, leaving the term completely open to interpretation per respondent, making the analysis useless.

Bari Weiss, another signer of the Harper Letter, just announced that she has quit the New York Times. In her public letter of resignation she complained how NYT colleagues who publicly criticized her were not reprimanded by the Times.

Lol

We noticed. — ssu

I wasn't directly talking to you, since I know your reading comprehension skills are not too good:

And that you think that "cancel culture" is a fundamental component of liberal democracy (except when it's an Amazon worker leading a protest or something I gather). — ssu

the whole term, (which is extremely goofy, by the way) is primarily a concern for people of a certain class or occupation or politico-ideological beliefs that want to distract away from actual material concerns that a majority of people face. — Maw

Did that already on page 6

One of the organizers of the Harper's Letter tweeted that he kicked a friend of a friend out of his house in a foreign country simply because the latter was criticizing Bari Weiss (another signer). These people (and some of you posters here) have worms in your brain, just chomping away.

This is sick. This is a nightmare. Somebody talk me down, tell me this isn't happening. — fishfry

Really can't express how funny this is to me

Someone calling JK Rowling a TERF on Twitter is Maoism, absolutely

Great film. Terrible political philsophy.
Might watch that tonight, you've put me in the mood. — Kenosha Kid

Love the film, but I don't find that it expresses or advocates any real political theme.