Do you think that Biden's weakness and apparent cognitive issues on display in every one of his public appearances in the past week are just clickbait? That his mind is sound as a dollar? — fishfry

This is not the same as the idea that Hillary Clinton is likely to be the Democratic nominee

Would it help you to know that I was considering Yang? :victory: — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Well, undeniably better than Trump

Ok. So do you think it's reasonable to speculate that the Dems might try to replace him? And that if that were to happen, that She Who Must Not Be Indicted is one of the names that would naturally come up? Or is Michael Goodwin simply trafficking in idle speculation with no basis in reality, in addition to lazily writing about it twice? — fishfry

It's fine to speculate but it's based on little more than op-ed contributors simply trying to churn out articles.

Thank you for keeping track so assiduously. — fishfry

You're welcome, it's not hard to keep track of things that happened several weeks ago - I'm sorry if you somehow face that difficulty.

So may I ask you: How do you feel about Biden these days? Think he's the Trump slayer? — fishfry

No he sucks

Just wanted to keep you abreast of the latest Hillary speculation. Micheal Goodwin of the NY Post notes that Democrats need to recruit Obama to bench Biden, find another candidate. He suggests Cuomo, Pelosi (??) and She Who Must Not Be Indicted herself. — fishfry

You made a similar comment early this month referencing an article also written by Michael Goodwin about a speculative Hillary win.

Someone please pay me money to write the same dumb article twice a month.

I can't even bring myself to think ahead for more than 24 hours at this point

Some people on this very site only use 10% of their brain, but that's their limitation im afraid

So what I'm suggesting isn't just to let the old folks die, but it's to place a higher burden on the old to protect themselves, and it's to temper their protection by governmental mandates and expenditures in the same way we do it in other contexts. That's not cold hearted. It's just reality — Hanover

Lol this rules :up:

Honestly don't think we've seen such a deference to capital ever in the modern age?

Biden Comes Alive! one of my favorite live albums

Everyone call your grandparents and tell them they have to die so that people can go get their mudslides at Applebee's again.

Remember Libertarianism, at least coronavirus killed that one!

Oh I forgot to mention, house every single homeless person so they do not pose a public health danger. And then keep this up, forever. — StreetlightX

Also release prisoners and house them too.

*Shrug* I just presumed he was dead. — Baden

I was 50/50 on if he had coronavirus.

They had to take him out of his rejuvenation tank just so he could do a video call. They're continuing to work on his failing circuits as we speak. — StreetlightX

They need to charge his battery for nearly a full week so that he can speak half-coherently for 5 minutes.

It is truly amazing how open they are about it: sacrifice millions in order to get the economy functioning again (read, get stocks back up). A death cult indeed. Not only would millions die and millions more become sick, but the consequence of that would also be an economic collapse, and we'd be right back where we started, but with additional millions dead. These are the same people who will pontificate how socialism kills, mind you.

Anyone seen Joe Biden around? — StreetlightX

Love how the Democratic frontrunner went missing for 6 days as the crisis escalated here :up:

The Plague, Albert Camus — 180 Proof

Re-reading as well

While my first inclination is to agree, checking myself I ask: how would I feel if Trump cancellation an election for the same reason? Suspicious. So damns if you do...? — Pfhorrest

Depends on how things are looking 8 months down the road.

The DNC went ahead with yesterday's primary election putting MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AT RISK JUST SO BIDEN CAN MAINTAIN HIS MOMENTUM and there is no doubt that MANY WILL DIE AS A DIRECT CONSEQUENCE OF THAT DECISION, so FUCK the DNC.

Treated? — frank

Racist "Bernie Bros" labeling, excluding questions on Climate Change for the majority of debates, excluding progressives/Leftists/Socialists from major media outlets, "hOw wIlL wE pAy fOr iT?" regarding any public services, and the barrage of negative coverage for Bernie Sanders, just to name a few.

Bernie didn't take out doddering, "sleepy" Joe (like Warren took out Bloomy) the way he needed to on Sunday night, and got crushed again for the 3rd Tuesday primaries in a row. Voters are more afraid of tRUMP than they are of not changing The Rigged System that made his 2016 election possible. C'est la vie, comrades - the vox populi (proles + bougies) has spoken - the barracades will have to wait till 2022/24! We Progressives need to downshift now - Bernie needs to suspend his campaign today! - from primary campaigning to general electioneering and support Biden (probably with K. Harris/S. Abrams/M. Obama/O. Winfrey). The MAGAt-in-Chief is hemorrhaging covfefe-19 and Dems need to frenzy like feeding sharks in this stew of chum. Anything less than full support of Biden now by progressives / "Bernie Bros" makes 2016 Redux more likely than not.

FeelTheBern - Curb-stomp the Donald! (Old school NYers effin' know.) — 180 Proof

Progressives, an appellation increasingly reserved to those under 40, will act on November 3rd 2020 in proportion to how we've been treated in this election cycle and to the degree of exigency in the face of a global pandemic, healthcare crisis, and ecological disaster.

I lived through a good chunk of it. — fishfry

Oh this explains it

Pure ideological blindness. — Baden

We need socialism in order to get rid of stupidity. Capitalism is melting people's brains, just look at @fishfry

I appreciate your and everyone else's passion on this topic. Medicare for All is dead as a campaign issue. Biden is on record as opposing it and wanting to extend Obamacare. I've said my piece and will leave it at that. — fishfry

Oh so it doesn't say that, you just like making stuff up.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx — fishfry

"Older, higher income Americans rate their Healthcare quite positively"

Where does it say my taxes will "go through the roof"?

Every single one of the Dem candidates is on record as wanting to give free health care to anyone who shows up from anywhere in the world. You think your taxes won't go through the roof to pay for that? — fishfry

Nope

I'm vacillating on staying home or voting for Biden, but I live in solid blue state so it doesn't really matter what I choose. If Bernie drops out he'll endorse Biden and ask his supporters to do the same, and like 2016, the vast majority of them will vote for the Democratic nominee.

I know what I am for and what I am against. I am against the bureaucrats stepping in for the same reason I am against any other group stepping in. I am for personal liberty and the responsibilities required to maintain it. — NOS4A2

Everyone, it's ok to call this for what it is: fucking stupid, no need to tiptoe around it.

How is it in your neighborhood? — ssu

I'm in NYC and my company shut down the office and told us to work from home until further notice

I can tell none of this matters to you and it's entirely theoretical. Try coming back to the issue when an issue like this actually matters in reality. — BitconnectCarlos

ok lemme know when that happens!

Do you have a child? Would you like them getting pregnant at 17? Clearly since this is a non-issue you should be fine with it. — BitconnectCarlos

This is where the shit and brain emojis would have come in handy

Are you saying teenage pregnancy is not a problem? The overarching idea here - and this really shouldn't be particularly contentious - is that people should wait until they're older and more financially secure (and ideally married as well) - before they commit to having children. Even 21 seems very young to me. — BitconnectCarlos

Teenage pregnancy is at record lows so not, it's not really relevant vis-à-vis poverty

Even if tonight is a trainwreck for Bernie there's no sense dropping out because 1) the majority of primaries have yet to take place and 2) Biden can royally fuck up the upcoming debate on Sunday

It should be clear that having children - especially many of them - before one is financially stable should be avoided if your priority is to avoid poverty. I don't know how you can argue against that. Same thing with high school education. — BitconnectCarlos

If you bothered to read the article I shared you'd see that having a full-time job does most of the work here. Unfortunately, even a full-time job doesn't guarantee anything. Despite record employment rate, 44% of full-time workers are in low-wage jobs, with a median annual earning of slightly lower than $18K. Here's a Brookings Institute report on that. Graduating High School is largely irrelevant since the High School dropout rates are extremely low. Waiting until you are over 21 to get married and have children is also superfluous.

It's really quite a good article — BitconnectCarlos

The "Success Sequence" is a bunch of nonsense actually.

I don't know if it is 25% to 75% ratio, but something along the lines it has to be. Hell, even Maw is personally OK how things are in his life when it comes to health care! — ssu

I explicitly said I was in a privileged position in regards to healthcare that most Americans aren't in, and even then I'm certainly not happy with what I pay out of pocket. What part of that do you have trouble understanding?

Warren. — 180 Proof

Pretty curious on your thoughts now

Capital and Ideology, Thomas Piketty — 180 Proof

Let me know your thoughts as well, I enjoyed Capital, but have been hearing mostly negative reviews for this.