Those were great. Marvel makes some damn good movies. I liked pretty much all of them, even the ones that are considered terrible I think were alright, lol.

The internet is for porn, and stealing intellectual property. Anything else is obscene.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that I was more just playing devil's advocate, and don't really think that heroes are bad, but saw a ted talk that was saying that, and thought I'd bring it up here. I actually think that there is certainly no link between violent video games, movies, tv shows and such and real world violence, unless the demographic is five. Everyone else understands metaphor, sublimation of violent energies into games or fantasy is distinguishing it, and separation it from everyday life, and giving it an outlet. Furthermore, I think that pumping people up, motivating them getting them interested, engaged and in positive moods, without giving them specific rules, principles, or mores to live by is probably better. People need to think for themselves, develop their own discernment feel powerful, and direct that into their lives.

Also yeah, I don't think that there's anything wrong with setting the ideal with the excellent rather than the mediocre. Some people suck, get over it, sorry for them. Not really important, as all you have to do is be sufferable, and you're lovable, but being excellent makes you more respected, and treated better. Being great at this or that doesn't make you better over all, or more valuable, but people behave as if it does, and the inclination to protect people from the abuses of those that treat others as less valuable because of perceived inferiority, incompetence or lack of skillz seems just. We definitely shouldn't protect anyone from failure, but we shouldn't treat people like failures either.

So, whose your favorite marvel hero? I liked spider-man because he was funny, I used to watch his cartoon in middle school.

You make some good points, tied into Marvel's inception was the notion that it would be unlike DC, and have flawed characters.

I haven't read any comics, no, but watched some cartoons as a kid, and the movies and stuff. I do think that they're just more fun, and relatable than DC heroes, and other heroes. They still solve 100% of their problems with violence though, which isn't instructive.

Oh yeah, you remember reading about that within the last ten minutes...

Still trying to say that it has nothing to do with it, but is all about cartiovascular problems... what is "rhabdomyolysis"?

Factual matters are not really something that require arguing. If you are now saying, as you appear to be, that rhabdomyolysis cannot be, or never is caused by extraneous muscle exercises, then all I can say is that's certainly not what I've read. I did not read all of the articles I could find from "death from over-training", as there were seven million results... but I guess that I must be mistaken, but I encourage everyone to look into it.

As long as you admit that not all pigeons are in on it.

I see that you just misunderstood me. You can do a google search of death from over training. I heard of an entire basketball team being hospitalized from it.

Yeah everyone's cut if they're lean enough. What's more interesting is where you hold your fat, which is indicative of your posture. If it isn't fairly evenly distributed, it's indicative of a postural asymmetry.

You know that you can die from over training? If too much of the contents of muscles gets into your blood stream, you can die. In lower amounts, and some amounts of course will get into the blood stream, it's still rough on the kidneys and liver, and makes you feel unnecessarily, and especially like shit. What were the benefits you never mentioned?

Yeah, I'm sure that the latest research in bro science says just that.

Personal trainers are terrible scams, and it isn't good for you to go to the gym and kick your ass, and be sore as shit the next day. Can you do that everyday? Were you comfortable with the things you did? Did you sacrifice form, stability, and control for more more more? Almost certainly you did, because if you don't feel the burn, if it isn't super difficult, and you aren't dead the next day they must be bad at their jobs. They give you what you want, which is not to be healthy and in shape, a life long constant endeavor. No, what you really want is to whip yourself, and make sacrifices and then to continue with business as usual. Think that they do that to themselves? Nope, but it's a fantastic selling point, because it's what people expect, and the super cereal about it think that trainers are shit unless they're yelling slogans at you in between yelling "push it!" "one more"!

Lions sleep for 21 hours a day, and are probably the laziest animals on the planet, but I still wouldn't fuck with one.

There's also the problem that there is no ideal proper human form, there is no proper way to do anything. We're all fairly similar, so lots will be applicable to most everyone, but more than likely some fitness expert will be pushing the stuff that they thought worked for them, with zero insight into what may work for you, and often wrong about the effects it had on them.

I of course don't do that, I see what people are actually doing, what they're feeling, I do, and feel it too, which is difficult only to the extent that it feels weird, wrong and unnatural at first, a tad uncomfortable too, and you have to constantly remember to do it and feel it all the time, but eventually you're doing it without thinking about it!

That's what I do, I care not for the inferior methods of others.

I wish...

Now that's something I can believe he's a master of.

Hey, I'm all for tough love when deserved, but most importantly, and significantly it isn't in this case. There are no significant stakes. He's being a dick to an old man, not actually to convey any wisdom, teaching, or anything helpful at all, in this case, he's wrong, and his beliefs are stupid. He's being a dick to someone, because of the wrong and stupid things he thinks.

Don't you also find the talk of tradition inconsistent and ironic? It's a misunderstanding of the teaching, and not properly living it to keep such a book, according to the tradition, even though the book is seven generations old... so like at least two hundred years. That's quite a tradition... also if the tradition is to badmouth the tradition, and teaching as something to be discarded, then aren't you actually failing to do that by ritualistically just going through the motions of saying what you're supposed to about saying what you're not supposed to? Wouldn't praising the tradition, and keeping a valued possession actually be more in line with the teaching?

I know, but he could have at least pretended to like it, and if at all possible, have the old man witness a variety of comical and inappropriate uses for it, degrading it over time. Gotta stretch it out over time, savor it.

Yeah... but buddy was all like "see this hand written, one of a kind generational book, that was passed on to me by my teacher in a seven generation long tradition, which served as a pivotal character defining moment in my life? This book gives deep insights into the characters and minds of the past seven masters, and I painstakingly left my own mark, after years of work and consideration. I hope that it is useful to you, and even a fraction as meaningful as it was to me, it is incredibly valuable, nay priceless... if I had anything close to a child..."

And the other guy was all like "oh yeah... into the flames", and then responded sarcastically to his cries of shock and anguish.

Being in the same tradition doesn't stop buddy from coming off as an antisocial ideologue bully.

Yeah, good thing no one burnt the book it was in in order to one up out-enlighten someone.

Burn all the books then? Lol.

Oh yeah! They're suicide bombers too! The first ones, the original inspiration, and true cause of all subsequent terror events! They hate our freedom, materialism, and "unlived" knowledge. They must take it upon themselves to awaken the world by destroying the things we care about.

Burn all the books then?

Moment ruining book burner... I get it, the world can burn, nothing is of any value besides the ideological commitments, and all those screaming in horror are just ignorant, deluded, and don't see the way.

Furthermore buddy says that he's happy with what he knows now, and couldn't possibly conceive of its improvement through a book, or any other means? Really?

Oh, I see the hidden wisdom in all that... I'm so far along the path!

What a dick...

Are we constantly changing unique snowflakes unable to be captured by dead generalizations like categories? Not really. Snow flakes are unique because of the unique environment in which they formed, the relation to the wind, other snowflakes, specific location and path. Snowflakes formed in a closed environment under identical conditions come out structurally identical. Punctuated equilibrium, or the notion that evolutionary changes happen quickly in spurts, along side environmental changes, but species stay relatively the same in static environments.

Things aren't randomly, or unpredictably changing. Similar things share similar histories, and experiences. Without some kind of relatively static, relatively unchanging, or fixed attributes, or natures, similar things wouldn't have similar reactions to similar stimuli, but they do. Things wouldn't change similarly to similar environmental pressures, but they do.

The notion that it's all just stories, lingual categories, or otherwise entirely subjective cannot account for the predictive nature of universals, and the conformity to them, witnessed in nature.

No, they must at the very least be an irregular white guy. We had a meeting.

No, I have all kinds of friends! All of the friends. All of the best friends! Everyone is my friend -- except for you!

Also, I think that it was probably because Einstein was a jew and everyone feels bad for them because of Hitler, so that when you said that Einstein said it, people would be all like "oh, the poor jews", and not want to say it's wrong, because it might make the jews feel bad. That's clearly what happened.

That's actually not really a quote by Einstein... That's a myth.

Objection! You all have theories, I have facts... that's my theory.

They were right too.

The core identity is made of values (the character of a person), which are all but unalterable, even to the alzheimer sufferer. The narrative identity is constantly in flux, for everyone. Memory facilitates the continuity of narrative identity through selective forgetting just as much as remembering.

Unluckily for my deceptive biology though, I have a photojournalistic memory.

I have an egalitarian spirit, I feel that others ought to find me about as obnoxious as I find them.

Space is a prerequisite for the possibility of locationality. "Outside of the universe" is north of north of the north pole, I believe.

Identities are the categories we instinctively subsume ourselves under in discourse. They're a history of making friends and enemies, receiving positive and negative re-enforcement, being inspired and enchanted, horrified and disillusioned.

Because things are largely superficially identified, we stack the deck by exaggerating, and performing what we think exemplars of our identities are, and when we think we've nailed it, or at least good enough, then we just do that forever now, and don't really think about it.