Empirical knowledge, yes. Observation is another good way of gaining empirical knowledge. Both introspection (self-report) and observation have been used by Psychologists as a way of gaining empirical knowledge of the human mind.In a previous post, @TheMadFool pointed out that, as you say, introspection is not a type of knowledge. I agreed that it made more sense to say it is a good way of gaining knowledge. — T Clark
I agree.I do use reason, but people here don't usually doubt the value of it, while it seems to me that introspection is often distrusted. — T Clark
Mental events are sources of information (the result of intrinsic mental communication, or communication within a mind), hence; a type of organism function. So, I think assigning a property of credibility (believable or trustworthy condition) to a mental event is a category error.Sources of information have credibility. You believe some more than others. — T Clark
Can one reason from observation independent of introspection?I have argued above that one cannot reason without introspecting. So I think that introspection is a part of reasoning. — Coben
I asked you one question in answer to one of yours, here (in case you forgot). As far as "learning anything", I guess it's true what they say about old dogs. So we are done for now.Thing is, about being old and all....I already have answers to both those questions. But it seems my answers aren’t in accord with current thinking. So because I got two questions rather than an answer to my one, I haven’t learned anything. — Mww
Does reflection necessarily lead to reasoning?You can't really reason without examining experience and memories of experience and your own reactions to the parts of your reasoning. — Coben
Sorry, but I’m old.....with all that implies......so I have to ask: has there come into vogue a school of Western philosophy that holds the act of introspection to be categorically distinct from the act of reason? — Mww
No.Is introspection a valid type of knowledge — T Clark
There's more to it than that - should we depend less on introspection than on ratiocination? — T Clark
If so, how do they compare in terms of their credibility? — T Clark
What's your point concerning Brexit ? — Amity
I don’t think Einstein had a malicious bone in his body, the discovery of atomic weapons caused him enormous grief, but I think he would see it as an unintended consequence of his discoveries. — Wayfarer
7. A musical ensemble playing the same standards, and someone plays one note wrong, and everyone else instinctively works it in. and the song is different now and here is jazz. — csalisbury
I believed that the possibilities for creativity were endless, but I don't think this is the case now. — Jhn4
So how does semantic information tell us that the past is different from the future? — Metaphysician Undercover
Could you explain what you mean by "semantic information"? — Metaphysician Undercover
We cannot definition-ally distinguish past-contingent propositions from future-contingent propositions on the basis of experiential content, unless we are prepared to bite the bullet and call a certain appearance "the past", such as the contents of a memory or photograph. But once we reject this as a mistake, as did Ayer, we realize we are then unable to provide an experiential distinction between past and future, even while we continue to insist on it. — sime
In other words, we can't say that there's not the phenomenon of of an oasis in the desert if that occurs as an illusion. — Terrapin Station
Surely it is self-evident that there is a difference between future and past. However, we cannot really claim to experience the future, and though we say we've experienced the past, it is not as the past that we've experienced it. — Metaphysician Undercover
So the question is what type of knowledge allows us to say that there is a difference between future and past... — Metaphysician Undercover
...or is there really no difference between them and what appears as extremely self-evident is just a deep delusion? — Metaphysician Undercover
Ought statements, for the most part, are about resentment. The ought statement says: "That shouldn't have happened." It's a rejection of part of the universe in favor of other parts, or more bizarrely, in favor of a world that doesn't and couldn't exist. Looked at this way, morality, for the most part, is delusion. — frank
So how we treat other animals, for example, is not concerned with morality? — Pattern-chaser
Would I be correct in restating your definitions as follows?
1. Morality (I presume as a system) is the classification of events as moral or immoral as far as they do or do not satisfy fundamental human needs respectively. The state of being moral then, is any state that coincides with the satisfaction of fundamental human needs. — Pathogen
2. Spirituality is observed as a personal condition. Spirit is the ethical character of a person. — Pathogen
Am I then correct that you would consider spirituality a measure of one's moral or immoral character? — Pathogen
I would like some clarification on what you consider a fundamental human need though... — Pathogen
Let's look at what I initially found to be a particularly confusing part of delineating the difference between spirituality and morality--the concepts of good and evil. I would assert that these ideas are not equivalent to morality or immorality, and whether they truly exist or are merely superstitions they belong within the domain of spiritual beliefs. — Pathogen
Concepts such as law or government, which are directly involved in the process of a system of rewards and punishments in society, are morally inclined. — Pathogen
Therefore regardless of whether a law which has been passed is considered to be good or evil by the people under it, it would be moral to carry it out if it did not contradict the basis of what has been determined to be moral. — Pathogen
There seems to be a difference between morality and spirituality. — Pathogen
It's consensus and theoretical models that determine what's hallucination and what isn't. — leo
So how can we ever decisively conclude what is hallucination and what isn't? — leo