• Is Philosophy still Relevant?
    Sounds a lot like Adorno's Hegelianism.
  • Currently Reading
    I've been on the fence about reading 100 years for a while now but it's obviously a must read. I think it's in the wife's library...Pantagruel

    I was the same. Glad I went for it.
  • Currently Reading
    The New Class: An Analysis of the Communist System by Milovan Djilas, a 1950s critique of the Soviet system by a Yugoslav communist, showing that the nomenklatura and the elite of the CPSU had become a new class, and therefore that what is important is not just ownership of the means of production but control.
  • The automobile is an unintended evil
    A car-centric infrastructure is stupid and evil in cities, but maybe not for transport between cities. Put another way, public transport, especially trains, is best for cities, but cars might be best between them, depending on how far apart they are etc.

    So it's not so much cars themselves which are evil but the urban planning that prioritizes them. The prime example of this evil is stroads:

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    (And many of them are worse than this one; this one at least has sidewalks)

    It's a road where there should be a street. Where I am in Moscow there are effectively similar roads in the city centre:

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    They turn what could be an extremely pleasant city into a hellscape, and they're really bad at moving people about compared to trains etc. (BTW Moscow does have some great public transport but it's not enough and the car is still allowed to dominate.)

    Western European cities have begun to move away from the car-centric paradigm. A good YouTube channel that covers this stuff is NotJustBikes.

    (And talk about big government and liberty is really not relevant or helpful. It's worth noting that the car-centrism that began early to mid-twentieth century was partly the result of oversized influence from the borderline monopolistic car industry (partly also some misguided aspects of modernist architecture))
  • Currently Reading
    The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of NantucketPantagruel

    Have you read his short stories "MS. Found in a Bottle," and "The Unparalleled Adventure of One Hans Pfaall," written a few years before the novel? I've just read them and noticed that they both touch on the Hollow Earth theory, which is alluded to in the novel too, as I recall. Contrary to those critics who claim that Poe was just doing satire in these adventure stories, I reckon he was really into these theories.
  • Currently Reading
    One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García MárquezJamal

    Finished. Jamal scores it 11/10.

    Now reading Passing for Human by Jody Scott.
  • Where is everyone from?


    :up:

    Btw I would never describe myself as being “offended” by such inaccurate rumours, and wouldn’t want to give that impression.
  • Where is everyone from?
    I hear Putin is even militarizing migrantsjgill

    Thank you for your concern, but what do you mean by "militarizing"?

    Conscription of foreigners is a rumour that has been spread before on this site and elsewhere. I have to say I find it pretty annoying, and even irresponsible. As far as I know, migrants can be drafted if they've attained citizenship, as you'd expect, and non-citizens cannot be drafted.

    If you know otherwise, let me know.
  • What are you listening to right now?


    My father used to listen to that song often. The lyrics annoyed me back then but now I get it.

    Interesting that he wrote it no later than 1964, which seems pretty early to have already wised (wosen?) up to the bullshitness of that kind of sixties politics.
  • Currently Reading
    About a quarter way into Life And Fate by Vasily Grossman. I would have to be him to describe what it is like.Paine

    I read it a few years ago. Very good.
  • Move my thread back please


    Discussions in the categories of Politics and Current Affairs, Humanities and Social Science, and Science and Technology, all live on the home page, belonging to Interesting stuff. Whether that’s good for a philosophy forum is debatable (generally I think it is, but the interminable and mostly very unphilosophical discussions like those on Ukraine or climate change seem to require some other way of organizing things); but I’m not sure if the Lounge is the right place for them.

    Anyway, the OP under discussion here was moved because it was lazy and far too brief. OPs need to have more than “x says y, true or false”.
  • Bannings
    @boagie has been banned for low quality and toxicity.
  • Currently Reading
    One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez.
  • Feature requests


    Penalty box, you say? Sure, why not? Consider it done.
  • Feature requests
    Did I just dream it?
  • Feature requests
    Maybe run it by Plush?Leontiskos

    As discussed, they won't be adding new functionality and we'll have to move to another platform.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    Never mind racism: I'm surprised you haven't brought theism into this debate.

    I like dark chocolate, but Bournville is IMHO the old over-sweet sickly sticky disgusting kind of dark chocolate. Also I abhor rum.

    Raisins I can handle.
  • New Year's Eve celebrations
    On January 1 (yesterday?) I cooked a shin of veal for myself and three others. The previous night we went out at 01:30 to see some fireworks and get some free vodka and mulled wine. By that time I had had several beers, two Irish whiskies, a bottle of Georgian wine, two Baileyses…

    Today I cooked again. Slow-cooked pork ribs with buckwheat and onions. More Georgian wine, also Cava and Belgian beer.

    We're having a STNG marathonVera Mont

    I watched that a lot when I was a youngster, and would happily watch it again right now. Yesterday we watched Ivan Vasilievich Changes His Profession, an SF comedy film from 1973 in which Ivan the Terrible is transported by means of a time machine to a 1970s Moscow apartment block, and hilarity ensues.

    It's getting down below minus 20 Celsius tonight, so the dog will be sleeping indoors. He’s made for winter, but not for sub-minus-20 temperatures.
  • Bannings
    @Merkwurdichliebe posted mostly very low quality, nasty comments. There was rarely anything of substance. It was a good decision.

    the horror!Tzeentch

    You can be anti-left, for example, if you do it reasonably.

    Happy new year!
  • The objectively best chocolate bars


    You’ve opened a can of worms.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    Now that you've set things out, I understand the distinction you're making between chocolate bars and candy bars, and I apologize. You're right: I've been focusing on what you're calling candy bars. The trouble is, we don't use the word "candy" in the UK so anything covered in chocolate is a chocolate bar by default.
  • Are some languages better than others?
    I really hope I haven’t broken any rules in this post by the way :/ Please excuse me if I have, as I am new to this site.Beverley

    No you haven't broken any rules. The only thing I'd say is that you should put a blank line between paragraphs to make it more readable.

    Welcome, Beverley. :smile:
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    Yes, there was something about it I didn't like. Maybe in those days my nut love had not moved beyond peanuts out to hazelnuts, I don't know.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    That's interesting: I don't remember the Cabana at all, even though according to Wikipedia it was around in the 80s, which was my main chocolate bar decade. I don't like coconut or cherry flavour sweets, so I would have avoided it.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    :grin:

    True, my compatriots would hang me, if only they could catch me. But note that I’m mainly Scottish, which is not a form of English.

    I do like some Cadbury’s chocolate. The Chomp, for example.

    Incidentally and in case you don’t know, there’s some connection between Quakers and chocolate. Cadbury and a few other English chocolate makers like Rowntree and Fry were Quakers.
  • Are some languages better than others?


    Yeah, travelling students must be a minority. My experience is that in France, Spain, Italy, and Russia, English is only spoken in the touristy parts of big cities and holiday resorts. But in the Netherlands and Scandinavia I suspect most people do speak English.
  • Are some languages better than others?
    every country in Europe, they all speak English at least up to daily conversational levelCorvus

    Not that it matters much, but this is not remotely the case, unless you just mean that all European countries have significant numbers of English-speakers.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    You do you, of course, but I can’t help but think less of you.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    Sickly sweet with an unpleasant, sticky texture.
  • Are some languages better than others?


    Feel free to discuss the topic, but if you have any more complaints about me, take them to Feedback.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    I would eat one to prevent death from starvation at the very last minute.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    Twixuniverseness

    It’s a bad bar. Toffee Crisps are fine but not great.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    That’s my kind of chocolate bar. Looks a bit like two British ones, which happen to be among the best British chocolate bars: Lion Bar and Picnic. @universeness resides in the UK and yet didn’t mention them :chin:

    The other best UK chocolate bar is the humble yet perfect Chomp.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    When I crack open my own on Christmas Eve I'll drink to you and your crappy chocolate bars.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    The Double Decker was one of my fav's but I also loved crunchies, bounty bars, mars bars, marathon bars, milky ways, yorkies and most other chocolate bars that have ever existed.universeness

    I can't take your whisky chat seriously, knowing that you have so little chocolate bar discernment. Mars bars indeed.

    My edgy opinion is that grown-up chocolate bars, rather like single malt whisky, are a triumph of marketing over substance, and that the confectionery aimed at kids is more inventive and tasty. I won't deny that Lindt is good chocolate, but it's like eating a raw ingredient.
  • Are some languages better than others?
    So if this response I'm now providing could have been stated before, why did others (myself included) throw a little ridicule your way? It's twofold I guess. The first is that the debate wasn't taken seriously by those who already knew the answer, but who would have only taken it seriously if there were someone somewhere taking seriously the thesis you're advancing, which could have only been shown by citing to some article or some new school of thought on the issue. The second is that posters (including myself) are not always arriving with an educational temperment when we post, but instead arrive with a combative, adversarial approach, which is understandable as well, as the bulk of us are ornery middle aged men overly connected to our computers.Hanover

    Personally, I treated it with derision partly because I'm in a scraptious mood, and also because I'm upset by the stupidity that surrounds me: bigotry, stereotypes, conspiracy theories, the paranormal, and the brazen lack of interest in learning. Folk linguistics is in the same ballpark. I believe in shutting down this stupidity instead of exposing it, because the latter is too much work.

    Note that @I like sushi is no more interested in the polite, friendly, and calm objections from @Baden or from you than aggressive interlocutors like me. That's because it was a Lounge discussion from the start and Sushi had no intention of thinking.

    But it may well be the case that my approach is a bad one, and, Merry Christmas.
  • The objectively best chocolate bars
    their taste is like savoring the harvest. Ew!javi2541997

    "Savouring the harvest" to me sounds deliciously evocatively delicious.

    That makes me think of my Siberian tea, which isn't really tea. It looks like somebody went in to a forest and just swept up whatever was on the ground. Leaves, needles, cones, sticks, etc. I say it's like drinking a forest, and I mean it as a good thing. I savour the forest.

    Before anyone thinks I'm one of those tea people, I'm not. Coffee is my drink, but I drink tea when I have infections of the upper respiratory system, as I do now.