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https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/28211

Yes, I'm biding my time.

>:o

Now I'm getting pissed off.

But a crosswalk is more than just a set of stripes painted across a carriageway pavement. It becomes a crosswalk only in the context of the social conventions surrounding the human use of roads. The metaphysics of traffic control.

Are zebra crossings, cross walks painted on the ground? — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Zebra crossings are crosswalks accompanied by Belisha beacons. In contrast, Pelican crossings are crosswalks accompanied by standard traffic lights. Any clearer?

Jesus, I've just looked at this discussion for the first time in ages. What the Hell is going on here? Is any of this shit useful? I'm not sure.

I don't think I'm going to comment on the specifics of the debate, as regards individuals, but I'll think about what everyone is saying. Generally, I don't think this forum is sexist, and certainly not coming from any of the mods, but I do think there's a gang mentality that crops up sometimes, and that could be so macho as to be unwelcoming to women. I'm not sure. (I personally find the platitudinous anti-American prejudice on the forum more annoying and destructive than any locker room talk, but maybe that's just me)

Some would probably consider the self-referential faux flirtation theme in the Shout box sexist, for example. Maybe they're right, but not clearly so in my view. I see it as more of a parody of sexual behaviour, and though it may have a fairly short shelf life, generally harmless. — Baden

I don't know if this is part of what @unenlightened has been criticizing, but in my opinion it's a sick culture that would judge that to be sexist. Assuming, as seems apparent, that those on both sides are comfortable with it and give as good as they get. That could be a bad assumption, of course, but I don't have any reason to think it is, as yet. It's confined to the Shoutbox, which is a social space and will have some of the natural features of social interaction. But then I would say that, because I've been involved in it.

I don't know what to do about any of this, if anything, because at the moment this thread seems to be just a mess of confusing bitching and bitterness.

I can see how it would work with the Northern accent

I thought "numpty" was Scottish

The thing is not a single comment by a single person, but the sense in which the, apparently entire staff gets together in a big high-fiving mocking spectacle at someone else's expense. — Wosret

Apart from your "entire staff", I think this is a fair point, and I don't like to see it either.

There are differences of course, but your views all bear a certain family resemblance to each other on many issues (for example religion). — Agustino

I think our views on religion are probably quite diverse, although you could be right that we're all atheists. I'd be happy to have believers on the mod team, but they are few and far between.

I think you're right that it's not left vs right. Some on the far Left are as supportive of the right to bear arms as American conservatives and libertarians, and not only in America.

Maybe, although I seem to disagree with them as much as agree when it comes to politics. On many issues I'm often much more inclined to agree with, say, Hanover or Thorongil than with, say, Sapientia or Street. So if you class me as being on the Left along with them, you're obscuring some deep differences.

In any case, the Left is over-represented there probably because it's over-represented among those who are into philosophy (a point made many times before in discussions like this). I'd like to see more diversity in the mod team. Conservatives are welcome. Ranting alt-right maniacs, maybe less so.

That's a laugh. The purple prose-laden, hyperbolic, and ill-tempered responses by the mod team toward anyone who supported the right to own firearms in the recent gun control thread alone puts the lie to this suggestion. — Thorongil

I wish you wouldn't lump us all together like that. The mod team did not act as one in that discussion, and we don't all share the same views or manners. For instance I don't share the views espoused in the posts you refer to, although I can be a little ill-tempered at times.

I am bummed that TGW has apparently been banned again (like the old PF). I don't get it with him since I've always found him to be fairly non-confrontational and his contributions to be valuable. — Erik

This time I think he was banned because he changed his writing style--neglecting capitals at the beginning of sentences and so on--and point blank refused to change it back. It wouldn't have been fair to make an exception just because he was an exceptionally good contributor.

And yet I am not deterred.

But as a human male, and not a Klingon, I have a three-dimensional, fully realized personality, and can therefore maintain my honour and manliness even while I scheme deviously.

I see your love of all things Klingon has its limits. Well, I'm versatile, and I don't want to rush things if you're not comfortable with that.

EDIT: I now see that you were repulsed by my all-too-easy and entirely false capitulation, rather than by the thought of Klingon-style mating.

I would make a video stripping my socks off to Beyoncé's Partition — TimeLine

Where's the egg-plant emoji when you need it? But no: ironically I respond more positively to something akin to the Klingon mating ritual, in which we sniff each other's hands and squeeze them till they bleed.

And no, Worf is a real Klingon, he chose his battles wisely. He is Klingon enough to drink prune juice and be proud. — TimeLine

I'm convinced.

This may be more concrete and pedestrian than you're looking for, but...

I find it difficult to draw a clean dichotomy between them, because speculative hurt is also real, not least in the way that it can lead a bitter nerd to cause realer hurt such as rape, harassment, online misogynistic trolling, etc. From this point of view it won't do to dismiss the feelings of unattractive young men who don't know how to talk to women, who feel victimized by what feels to them like an aggressively feminized culture, in which their words are policed by the online mob. Indeed, as Angela Nagle shows in Kill All Normies, the cultural dominance on the internet of political correctness and liberal call-out campaigns, which are often hysterical and puritanical, has contributed to the attractiveness of extreme misogyny and new forms of extreme right thinking, which have thrived on sites such as 4chan. I'm sure TGW could enlighten us further if he were still here.

If the speculative hurt of the misogynistic right-wing nerd is leveraged against the victims of harassment and assault, then it is useful to make that important distinction. But at the same time, if we want to understand what is happening to these young men and do something about it, we also need to take it seriously.

I too had hoped we could find some common ground on this matter, on which we could grow our relationship until it blossomed with passion and beauty. But I'm not going to compromise on this TL, not even for you. The trouble with Worf is that he was always, at least from the Klingon perspective, a pussy. He didn't make sense. And the episodes that focused on him and the Klingons in general were always the worst, don't you think?

Don't get me started. I don't give a shit about the Klingons. They should have got rid of them a long time ago. They always inevitably drag things down into cliché, all stemming from the fact that they are an ill-conceived species characterized merely by one human personality trait among others.

He probably deserves all that, yes, but on the other hand...

...Hefner, above all, was committed to the liberties of all; not just the lifestyle of would-be playboys, but also those fighting for civil rights, those who were still falling foul of repressive laws, those who desired liberty but found it being shamefully restricted. So at his Playboy clubs during the 1960s, you could hear black comedians perform when most other comedy clubs were still segregated. (Indeed, he even gave $25,000 to one of those comedians, Dick Gregory, to use as a reward for information regarding the murder of three young civil-rights activists in Mississippi, as a result of which convictions were successfully brought against several KKK members.) You could find Hefner in the 1970s, his hands deep in his pockets, funding Jesse Jackson’s civil-rights group, the Rainbow PUSH coalition; and you could find him supporting the comedian Lenny Bruce when many others had abandoned him because of his obscenity convictions. In the words of Hefner’s daughter, Christie, he couldn’t bear to see anyone ‘persecuted or prosecuted for his words and his ideas’.

In the 1980s, he enshrined his commitment to freedom of expression by founding the Hugh Hefner First Amendment Awards. The diversity of the recipients testifies to Hefner’s awareness that fundamental freedoms have to be universal. The list includes women and men, right-wingers and left wingers, Muslims and atheists, and even a pair of magicians in Penn and Teller. It shows that Hefner was willing to support anyone who made the case for greater freedom of thought and speech, from campaigners against government spying in the name of counterterrorism to those who sought to end blacklisting in the television industry. — Tim Black

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/lets-hear-it-for-the-hef/#.WdIAWk2CzCI

I don't think Cartesian or substance dualists hold that the mind and body are unrelated. If I'm right then I think your argument fails.

Yep, just done it. Thanks :)

But under this way of looking at it, none of that would be an acceptable account of existence. To exist, logically speaking, is generally just to be the subject of a predicate.

Sometimes, and mostly partly.

Gold is pretty soft, as metals go.

I'd expect to set up an account or "store" with some existing platform to make that stuff easier. Amazon or Ebay or whatever. Don't know how that would work though.

I think drinking is a form of self-medication; nothing more nor less. — John

Nothing is nothing more. Even if drinking is a form of self-medication, it has its own qualities, is used in particular ways, represents particular ways of being both individual and social, and thus can be explored in many ways.

I changed it back to "Favourite". I was too eager to please Hanover.

So I went through a period where I consistently pushed myself past the boundaries of social discomfort. A big part of this involved eliminating self-judgment and judgment of others. With judgment removed, I felt that I could be myself - I could say and do the things I would when I was feeling a good alcohol buzz. — CasKev

You've convinced me. And I must admit to being impressed. But if I'm interpreting your story correctly, alcohol for you was a risk too big to take, or continue taking. I think for many people it doesn't carry the same risk, so here I come back to my scepticism about the distinction between a real and and an artificial opening up to the world. But sure, to be authentic all the time is appealing.

I know. I think I'll leave it like that because the inconsistency is a bit annoying, like a grain of sand in an oyster.

You're too fast. See my edit.

No. But I've left "Favourite quotations" in the interests of fairness.

Done.

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Certainly one has to be careful over the long term.

Because it's not real. We're relying on artificially altering your experience, because we can't face it straight up. Surely The Lady Sophia would say that we need to learn to value ordinary experience, to see what is valuable in it, without artificial stimuli. — Wayfarer

Inebriation is real. Anything we do "by a special method" (to quote myself) is artificial, and to be artificial is not to be unreal. It is artificial to live in a city, to ride a bike, to read books. I don't think we reach some privileged natural state when we avoid chemicals. Playing an instrument no doubt alters our brain chemistry. And I think that drinking is part of ordinary experience.

Otherwise, good for you (not sarcastic). I've cut down too, though I can't see myself giving up completely.

No point at all, Gus! :)