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  • The Philosopher will not find God
    My position is that philosophy concerns intelligible-explicable concepts and "god of religion" is neither an intelligible nor explicable concept. — 180 Proof

    Si, you said that before and I agree - you hadta philosophize about god to realize that (ex post god is nonphilosophical). However, how do you square this position of yours with the universal scope of philosophy? In me humble opinion, everything is philosophizable.
  • What Are You Watching Right Now?
    us unposh folk so maybe — Changeling

    We're all in the same boat mon ami.
  • Are we alive/real?
    Amor fati. — 180 Proof

    :up:
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    Theology, I admit, belongs to classical metaphysics; but the "god of the philosophers" is not worshipped or what religious / mystical seekers seek. — 180 Proof

    :up: I concur. Philosophers are in the business of sussing out how coherent the idea of a god is, whether facts support the existence of such a being, is a god desirable, etc.
  • Are we alive/real?
    It's my first language. Yours? — 180 Proof

    Allah rahim.
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    No. Religious faith [in god(s)] is the focus. "God" is the focus of theology. — 180 Proof
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    Make the argument, señor. — 180 Proof

    God is the focus of the philosophy of religion? :chin:
  • Arche
    ↪Wayfarer
    :up:

    ↪Gnomon
    :up:

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    The logos has been hijacked by Christianity in which it's equated with Jesus; this proves how important the idea is, but unfortunately, not how true it is.
  • Vogel's paradox of knowledge
    ↪Ludwig V
    "Where is your car?" is a question that doesn't do justice to the scenario as described. How is Al or Betty supposed to answer it?
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    Is there? Can you point to objective epistemology that can fuel a philosophical discussion about god or the supernatural in general? — Nickolasgaspar

    That's too obvious to state. Pick up an introductory book on philosophy and be informed! @180 Proof claims philosophy and god are incompatible. I beg to differ.
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    Its just reasoning reflecting on facts :grin:
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    — Nickolasgaspar

    That's the best thing one can do in life! Deepity?
  • What Are You Watching Right Now?
    ↪Changeling


    Perhaps ...
  • Arche
    I was asking you that since you seemed to suggest the discussion was missing the mark — Paine

    I may have misspoken mon ami. Anyway, I'm going with what you hadta say about the arche.
  • Vogel's paradox of knowledge
    The paradox is best visible when we ask a question other than "do you know where your car is, monsieur/mademoiselle?"
  • Arche
    So, more of a silence? Talking about logos won't help? — Paine

    Perhaps ... what is philosophy?
  • Who Perceives What?
    The question is moot, it looks like, from an antirealist standpoint.
  • Welcome Robot Overlords
    ChatGPT passes bar exam.
    ChatGPT a better doctor.
    These are some headlines I believe have been made in the past few months.
  • "Survival of the Fittest": Its meaning and its implications for our life
    ↪Alkis Piskas
    Si, si sir/madam. That is true.
  • "Survival of the Fittest": Its meaning and its implications for our life
    bleak SOF — Wayfarer

    Indeed! Our little project has fallen flat on its face! El Rachum!
  • Welcome Robot Overlords
    ↪Banno


    You hit the nail on the head mon ami! However, what about ChatGPT responses to questions like "who was the POTUS in 1960?" I bet its response is accurate.
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    Non sequitur. i agree with Nickolasgaspar and disagree with your reply to him. — 180 Proof

    :lol: That's alright. I may have stepped outside the boundary of his belief.
  • Are we alive/real?
    I've always had trouble with definitions.
  • My problem with atheism
    This is confused, you've got it backwards, mon ami. :smirk: — 180 Proof

    Perhaps, my intuition has been off the mark for most of the time I exercised it.
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    "There's a place for" unintelligibility-inexplicability (i.e. "divine mysteries") "in phlosophy" (i.e. the love – pursuit – of 'masterful intellection-explication')? — 180 Proof

    Nickolasgaspar was quite clear on what he meant. Perhaps you're looking at it from an ex post standpoint.
  • Arche
    I guess this explains why you are disengaged from the various attempts made in this discussion to distinguish between different possible meanings. But I don't understand what you mean by likening it to a "reminder."

    I feel like I am standing at the boundary of a private language.
    — Paine

    I don't have a private language, if that's what you're implying. It's a reminder in the sense of what's essential to philosophy.
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    Possibility needs to be demonstrated, not assumed. The default position(Null hypothesis) is to reject the possibility of a claim until facts can falsify our initial rejection. An example I used in the past was that of Alchemy. Alchemists spent time and resources to turn lead in to gold when our current knowledge informs us that the chemical transmutation of elements impossible. So there is a price to pay when someone thinks that there is nothing to lose when accepting a "deepity". — Nickolasgaspar

    That's deep man/woman! :smile:
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    My take on that would be that "the philosopher shouldn't seek God until he has access to objective epistemology pointing to the existence and ontology of God(s). — Nickolasgaspar

    True, there's a place for god in philosophy.
  • "Survival of the Fittest": Its meaning and its implications for our life
    I don't think we're as animal as a dog or trout is an animal; something quite artificial about us, but of course this doesn't mean survival of the fittest doesn't apply to us.
  • Who Perceives What?
    ↪bongo fury
    Very difficult to keep track of all the different paths in this maze, eh mon ami?
  • Who Perceives What?
    ↪sime
    The reason why both have adherents, are alive as it were, is telling, no?
  • Who Perceives What?
    That they aren't in the head. — bongo fury

    That is one quality, but from what I can gather from the OP's posts, he doubts precisely that.
  • Who Perceives What?
    Direct realism, how can it be proven to be better than idealism?
  • Are there more plausible dogmas for a "God" than those posited by major religions?
    haha that's as good an action as any I guess. *shrug* — Benj96

    :smile:

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  • Are there more plausible dogmas for a "God" than those posited by major religions?
    ↪Benj96
    I usually light up a cigarette mon ami.
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    ↪Benj96
    Possible. Really, nothing can be ruled out can it?
  • The Philosopher will not find God
    The philosopher is not seeking God and so to say the philosopher will not find god is like saying the doctor will not find the bomb.
  • Are there more plausible dogmas for a "God" than those posited by major religions?
    ↪Benj96
    What you latched onto was more of a personal matter. Anyway, I share your sentiments as regards as religious dogma being inadequate, but as I told you we've tried everything there is to try and we have diddlysquat.
  • Are there more plausible dogmas for a "God" than those posited by major religions?
    ↪Benj96
    If civilization progresses in similar ways, aliens, no doubt, will also conceive of god(s). The point is we have different conceptions of god and that speaks volumes as to how we've been so faithful and yet remain unacknowledged for it.
  • Welcome Robot Overlords
    It's just glorified predictive text. — Banno

    :up:
  • Who Perceives What?
    Representations, what more can be/should be said about them?
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