I tried my dear! Rolling the mental dice isn't a random throw. It's impossible! A truly random (thr)row cant be thought up. Our minds are not random number generators (which arent truly random either).

Thank you my dear! I will keep the forum informed about the gods. For um only!

except you don't even mention any (evidence). — Agent Smith

A few times I said that the existence of the universe is evidence. And my cosmology fits perfectly well with the reason gods created it. This I realize after the gods revealed their motives in a dream. Add the present state of the planet and the unusual religious activity on the forum now, and it becomes clear. I know this can be seen as the onset of manic psychosis, but maybe its the normal mental state.

Flip a coin! Roll a die! Or something. — Agent Smith

We could spin the bottle but a mentally random sequence of heads and tails, or 1s and 0s is impossible to make without external agents. Try and discover. I say 1, what say you?

God is like global warming — universeness

A powerful image!

Great song! Look at the arm of the drowning. Reaching for the candle. Longing to wake up from the bad dream.

I like your confidence, misplaced though it seems! Break a leg. — Agent Smith

Thank you my dear Agent! Why does it seem misplaced? Seems more in place than ever before. The gods were just in time! Consider yourself lucky,AS! Still you can exchange words with me directly!

As an atheist, I am 100% skeptical when anyone claims direct revelation from god, while awake or in a dream, and I assume that if they are serious, then something else is going on. — universeness

But these are the tactics used very often to declare opposing positions as something else going on (if taken seriously). You can say the same of Dawkins' "realization" that we are gene-driven machines...

Just look at the last day active threads. 13 of them are about gods...

No, Dawkins explains the mechanism of life — universeness

He litterally writes that he was overwhelmed by the realization (which he calls an absolute truth) that organisms are machines made and ordered by genes with the purposes of procreating them, pass them on. Or memes, in the case of humans. Now what kind of meme is that? Can't he do better? The meaning, purpose of life is to pass on life. It's circular and devaluating. If you see people as machines programmed by selfish genes, what has gone wrong in your life?

Besides Darwinian evolution, from which the central dogma in biology evolved, there is Lamarckian evolution. The organism being central and not genetics or Mendelian operations.

At least someone's having fun around here — Agent Smith

Yes my dear! And consider yourself lucky. You are a close witness here of the foreplay. The dream was a message. The gods finally succeeded to reach us. To communicate the divine revelation. The happy mess will be revealed here soon. A new era is about to take off. The final truth will finally be known. The meaning will become clear for all. The why and how of the universe will be made public for the first time here on TPF. Agent Smith,çonsider yourself one of the lucky few. To have had a direct exchange with the receiver and bringer of the new time awaiting us. After my revelation is made public here, humanity, philosophy, religion, and science will never be the same again, and we will be led into heavenly gardens. Consider yourself lucky, Agent Smith. To exchange words with the chosen one. I will carry the burden of choice though. Humanity will be saved...

I mean, look at the statistics. There haven't been that much talk about the gods before on the forum. Only last two weeks over 20 threads. Never before! There is something in the air my dear!

↪EugeneW :eyes: :rofl: — 180 Proof

Keeping on laughing about it doesn't make them go away Booze!

Quantum fluctuations are determined processes.

Have you heard of Lasègue–Falret syndrome, shared delusions? — Agent Smith

Seems like Freddy's sister was a mental case too. No wonder, lying in bed with your brother at old age wrecks the both. The Förster-Nietzsche syndrome.

missionaries sent to dangerous areas to make alphabets for them so they can read the bible etc — Shwah

Who are "them" and "they"? Why should they read the bible?

I've read Einstein's "Relativity" but that doesn't make me a genius. — 180 Proof

Neither was Einstein. Basically he stole his theory.

If there is anyone the gods laughed about then it was about Freddy... They even thanked the humanoid gods for it.

then g/G is morally, perhaps ontologically, indistinguishable from a quantum fluctuation — 180 Proof

Just look at what you write...

Blah blah blah...

When proof fails, is that all what's left to do? They're laughing at you. Especially the human-gods.

Yes. I just don't see the point you're making.

Michio Kaku says strings are one dimensional yet discrete. There is no easy way out of these issues without advanced math — Gregory

He means that strings are just the same as discrete 0d particles. But 1d. Small line pieces. Ridiculous. Particles are made from 6d space of which 3 large dimensions are curled up to Planck-sized circles, an Cartesian product S1xS1xS1.

We're desperately trying to find something that doesn't exist, because we simply cannot comprehend the confrontation with the fact, that the universe doesn't care whether or not we exist. — Carlikoff

The universe doesn't care, but the gods who made it do.

God exists is a logical argument? No, one does not need that.

Why would you ask a theist proof of god? Like dreams you can't proof god.

To me this is a stupid question, no offense. Why would you ask someone if he's alive — L'éléphant

Because they can't prove it either.

But it looks like we're going in circles — L'éléphant

We agree! Proving god or proving dreams are two different things though.

The belief in god. Those who say god does not exist because there's no proof of god's existence — L'éléphant

And they can't proof that they're alive either?

So, why does belief in god require proof of god then — L'éléphant

Why it requires proof?

What the fuck is this? — L'éléphant

So we can't proof to others we dream, perceive and are alive. So what?

Then I could say the same thing with you -- all the things you post here are just your illusion and I'm under no obligation to respond to an illusion or delusion. — L'éléphant

Exactly! Get my point?

Then you also have no proof of you perceiving the world.

As with any definition of perception, which you've already handled well, how do we know perception exists? Because to argue against it, or to even doubt it, is perception itself. In other words, we can't talk our way out of our own mind and say it doesn't exist. That's the logical double bind for ya. Cartesian. — L'éléphant

That's no proof your perception exists. For all I know you don't have a perception of reality. How can you proof to me you see the world?

That's not proof. — L'éléphant

Why else should your dog bark in his sleep?

If you would make a catalogue of the brain processes of the human experiences while awake, you could compare them with the processes seen when you suspect someone's dreaming. If there is resemblance, only the neurons firing faster, the person has dreamt. Without the person even telling you.

ooooookkkkkaaaaayyyyyy! :halo:
4h — universeness

:rofl: :lol: :rofl:

How you say that in Scottish?

I don't think string theory quantizes gravity by quantizing space and time. Spacetime is treated classically and is treated as flat. That's called background dependent. Gravitons move in this flat space. Loop QG quantizes spacetime itself. It's kind of difficult to perceive a quantized space. That's why I asked for 2d. Or 1d even. A quantized 3d space isn't made up of small 3d cubes (or 2d squares). In LQG you often see interlocked loops but that's not how to look at it either. How can discrete time know when to move on one Planck time?

Neither to me. That's why reasonable applies to subjects as well as arguments.

Yes. By using less of it. All this awe for technology is way overrated.

Whether this solves or merely repeats Zeno's paradox has not be settled in science — Gregory

Aint the paradox resolved in science?

What you mean by self loops? How does a particle move in it?

The ultimate philosopher is the one who is awaited desperately at the cosmic philo-conference. Announced as The One telling us finally the truth about existence, the truth about all truths. The One, who makes all philosophy, all science, all knowledge, and all religions seem childish, ludicrous, and superfluous, but a welcome addon to human existence. The One, announcer of a new era for mankind to enter.