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  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Remember when it was the parent’s job to teach their children about sexuality? — NOS4A2

    Yes, and often they did nothing.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    I think the philosopher said that if we argued for everything, we'd fall into an infinite regress after the first step. — Tate

    No, not what he said. But I forget his name.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    What isn't? — Tate

    Very little to nothing is self evident. As one philosopher said, if anything was self evident there would be no philosophy.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    Some things need no argument. They're self evident. — Tate

    If I do not agree it is not self evident. But, seriously, if you don't want a discussion it's fine.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    To each his own. — Tate

    Not really. Opining is not an argument.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    All sunsets are beautiful.

    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty,
    That is all ye know on earth,
    and all ye need to know."
    -Keats
    — Tate

    I do not agree.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    beauty and meaning are the same thing. — Noble Dust

    A beautiful sunset is meaningful. But the next day an okay sunset has no meaning? Please explain.
  • The Full Import of Paradoxes
    What Graham Priest text do you refer to? — TonesInDeepFreeze

    You are correct, he calls it dialetheism.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    1. All beautiful things are art (say the heart). — Agent Smith

    No; whatever "heart" is.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    I see art as trying to record an experience, — T Clark

    Yes, agree with that.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    For folks who love to make visual art but lack the painter's touch and technique, it's a godsend. — ZzzoneiroCosm

    Okay.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    What that means: You can save your work as file1, then continue to work, save again as file2, then continue to work, save again as file3, etc. Then, if you decide you hate file3 you can reload file1 or file2. In contrast to painting, this gives you the odd power to retrace your steps, re-envision your work, go back to a variety drawing boards. — ZzzoneiroCosm

    Oh, that's what sketches are for. I never lost my work.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    Do some digital art. You can save iterations along the way. — Tate

    I don't know what this means.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    Where does that idea come from? — Tate

    Comes from my sense of the world and how I think the world looks.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    The question, "creation of what?" could be asking why you stop at a certain point. How do you know when to stop? How would you answer that? — Tate

    I have an idea of what a painting should look like before i start.
  • The Concept of Religion
    Because science doesn't address the ought. — Hanover

    Yes, the how but not why.
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    I think it's about creation. — Tate

    Creation of what?
  • What does beauty have to do with art?
    Meaning. Depends on the artform. Painting is about pictures and images.
  • What is beauty
    What does beauty have to do with art? I've been a painter (artist) over 35 years and don't know why some obsess over beauty.
  • The aesthetic experience II
    Not everyone is here to discuss. The forum makes a fine notebook — ZzzoneiroCosm

    someone else to ignore
  • The aesthetic experience II
    ↪skyblack


    I will never read your posts again.
  • "What is it like." Nagel. What does "like" mean?
    There is a general sense of self which underlies and ties all the different aspects of the self together in that they are all aspects of my self, even if some of them are in conflict. — Janus

    I do not think the self which underlies is anything but all those aspects.
  • "What is it like." Nagel. What does "like" mean?
    ↪Tate
    If I ask you what it's like to visit Las Vegas, would you understand what I'm asking? — Tate

    Yes, I understand English.
  • "What is it like." Nagel. What does "like" mean?
    If there were only one way shaping from the social unit to its bodies , there would be no need for the concept of ‘I’ in the first place, only a vast cultural we-self. — Joshs

    I think the idea of the self is something of a fetish. Hume's critique of identity is accurate. There are multiple selves without there being an identity of all the selves.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Trump spoke to a crowd wearing military body armor that it was time to march on the Capitol.
    Legal prosecution will show he was planning this.
  • "What is it like." Nagel. What does "like" mean?
    Privacy is certainly an issue yes. When I burn my hand, you don't feel anything. There is something private about experience. — bert1

    'Private language' means you have a language no else has.
  • "What is it like." Nagel. What does "like" mean?
    ↪bert1


    This may not be a good comparison, but I think of Wittgenstein's notion of private language. You ask some how tall are you and the person puts his hand on the top of his head and says, "this tall."

    Nagel's idea of experience seems to be a kind of solipsism.
  • "What is it like." Nagel. What does "like" mean?
    "How does it feel to be a bat?" — bert1

    Yes. How does it feel to be me? How does it feel to be the person in front of me at the grocery store? I have no idea and I do not think it is a real question.
  • "What is it like." Nagel. What does "like" mean?
    Consider the northern expression "Does it heck as like". — bert1

    Never heard that and do not know what it means.
  • "What is it like." Nagel. What does "like" mean?
    It's not supposed to imply any comparison. — bert1

    Says Nagel. But what else does the word "like" mean?
  • The Churchlands
    There is some possible world where a computer randomly puts words together and produces great works of literature. Is that artificial system intelligent? I don't think so. — RogueAI

    Okay, I was thinking of deliberately constructed machines.
  • The Churchlands
    It would seemingly be intelligent, but it wouldn't really be intelligent. — RogueAI

    What if an artificial system can be productive, isn't that real intelligence?

    Further: The distinction between natural and artificial is the problem.
  • The Churchlands
    actually intelligent, as opposed to mimicring intelligence. — RogueAI

    Can you further explain this? What is "mimicking" intelligence mean.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    People should not be prosecuted, jailed or impeached for the sounds that come out of their mouths. But, as that era has proven, the bar has already been set. — NOS4A2

    Do we jail people for burping?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Looking at the issue from a psychological point of view, I'd say that most people swallow hook, line and sinker of a narrative they are given and are completely unable to critically evaluate whether the facts support it. Be it about Trump, covid, climate change or whatever lunacy would come next. — M777

    Well, I am much smarter than you, I guess.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    The COVID pandemic proved who the fascists were, and it wasn’t Trump. Now they have all the power they need. — NOS4A2

    ok
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    A FOX talking point would be why the democrats, that inspired BLM riots, aren't in jail? — M777

    Stay on topic.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    One could reply with "oh, that's just a CNN talking point." — M777

    If CNN reported that Trump insurrectionists seriously injured 200 cops, then yes.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    How many people did the violent Trump supporters kills? How many guns and rifles did they bring with them? — M777

    FOX talking point. 200 cops seriously injured. Is this funny to you?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Why should he be? — M777

    Attempted violent coup.
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